HRA Minutes 10-05-2005
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MINUTES
MONTICELLO HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
Wednesday, October 5th, 2005
505 Walnut Street - Bridge Room
Commissioners Present:
Steve Andrews, Darrin Lahr, and Dan Frie
Commissioners Present:
Brad Barger, Bill Fair
Council Liaison Present:
Wayne Mayer
Staff Present:
Rick Wolfsteller, Ollie Koropchak, and Angela Schumann.
1. Call to Order.
Chairman Lahr called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM and declm'ed a quorum,
noting the absence of Commissioners Barger and Fair.
2. Consideration to apProve the October 5th, 2005 HRA meeting minutes.
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MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ANDREWS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES
OF THE HRA MEETING OF OCTOBER 5th, 2005,
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FRlE. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION CARRIED, 3-0.
3. Consideration of adding or removing items from the agenda.
Koropchak added as item 9 considcration to participate in case study rcgarding
emincnt domain.
4. Consent agenda.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ANDREWS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
AGENDA:
1. Consideration to ratify the amendment and second amcndment to thc License
Agrecment bctween the HRA, the City, and Rocky Mountain Group, LLC.
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2. Consideration to approve the partial reIcase of the Contract for Private
Redevelopment by and between the HRA and Blue Chip Development
Company.
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MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FRIE.
MOTION CARRIED, 3-0.
5. Consideration to review proposal and approve hiring LHB to commence
preparation of a redevelopment inspection rcport for proposed Redevelopment
TIF District No. 1-37.
Koropchak reported that the developers had not yet signed the predevelopment
agreement and had not provided the required deposit. Koropchak indicated that
she and Wolfsteller had met with Chuck and Mike Van Heel, along with Steve
Bubul and Mark Ruff. At that meeting, it was discussed that with the projected
increment, a $4 million gap remained. Ruffhad also recommended adding more
funding for relocation to the developer's budget. Frie noted that the project would
probably have to change significantly to make up the gap between what the
developer had sought and what Ehlers projected in increment. Koropchak
recommendcd not moving forward to hire LHB for the inspections at this point.
MOTION OF NO ACTION BY COMMISSIONER FRIE.
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LAHR.
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MOTION CARRIED, 3-0.
6. Consideration to review and accept:
a. Increase in fees by Ehlers & Associates
Koropchak stated that Ruff had asked her to discuss with the HRA the alteration
in rates for the establishment and management of TIF districts. Ehlers had
proposed a rate increase for the coming year, with incremental increases annually
after. The Commissioners noted that Ehlers, along with Kennedy and Graven, do
the rn(~ority of the TIF work within the metro area. Lahr notcd that Ehlers knows
the history of what the City is trying to accomplish. LaIn also noted that Ehlers
tends to stay current on TIF laws and regulations. Koropchak referred to previous
providers and their track record for the HRA.
Frie asked Koropchak if many communities do not use I'll", as Ehlers had stated
that Monticello is one of their more active clients.
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Koropchak responded that some cites do not use TIF financing, many do not use
it as frequently as Monticello. Koropchak referred to the proposed rate chart
prepared by Ehlers. Lahr asked about what we are paying now. Koropchak stated
that the fee is normally $5000 plus attorney fecs; the final total seems to be in the
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range of $7,500. She noted that some redevelopment districts may also incur
more expense. Koropehak explained that the hourly rate is for 'ITF reporting and
modifications to contracts. Koropchak stated that due to changes in TIF law, each
year the City has to pay the County excess tax increment by projections and hope
there is no shortfall when decertified.
Lahr asked what happens if the City does not agree to the increase. Koropchak
stated that then Ehlers will most likely need to consider the client relationship.
Korochak stated that the work required by the state legislature grows every year,
which may account for some of the increase.
Lahr noted that they have proposed only one increase in ten years. Lahr
suggested that perhaps a good alternative to what had been proposed by Ehlers,
would be to raise the rate once, then not raise it again for a period of time.
Mayer questioned the ratio of increase. Mayer and Lahr indicated they do not like
the annual automatic adders.
Andrews suggested countering at $150.00 for the hourly rate. Lahr asked if this
proposed fee structure is just for Monticello. Koropchak stated that she believed
that it was Ehlers basic fee structure. She indicated that the TIF district
establishment costs are still being paid by City clients.
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The Commissioner recommended that Koropchak counter to Ehlers with a $140
hourly rate and with $6750 as the low end cost for economic district creation.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LAHR TO PROPOSE A FLAT FEE RATE
INCREASE FOR EHLERS AND ASSOCIATES BASED ON $140 PER HOUR,
AND ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS INCLUDED IN THEIR fLAT FEE
SCHEDULE, WITII NO AUTOMATIC INCREASE, BASED ON
MONTICELLO'S CURRENT CLIENT RELATIONSHIP WITH EHLERS AND
ASSOCIATES.
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FRIE.
MOTION CARRIED, 3-0.
frie suggested recommending to Ehlers that they come back with another
proposal using that range. Andrews stated that Ehlers can also estimate projects
as they come in.
Mayer asked if Lahr wanted a time frame for Ehlers response. Lahr indicated that
he did not want to set a deadline, but that in the meantime, Koropchak could
research other firms.
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Frie asked about other companies who do similar work. Koropchak noted the
Springsted is another prominent firm handling TIF.
b. Revisions to the Preliminarv Development Agreement
Koropehak explained that the Preliminary Development Agreement the BRA uses
most often is for economic districts. That agreement format has not changed
much, other than what the new deposit may be changed to. l-Towever, the
Monticello Business Center agreement, involving the purchase of property, will
be changing quite a bit. Koropchak noted the differences between the two
different types of agreements. Koropchak discussed the addition of a deadline for
project closings within the agreement.
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I ,ahr asked why the HRA would extend the term of the project closing.
Koropchak stated that if negotiations are not resolved, they have the option to
extend at their charge. Koropchak stated that it is easier to get the money up front,
and this clause allows them to do so. Lahr stated that his point is that if the
developer pays at the end and the contract indicates that they are responsible for
all costs anyway, why add another layer. Koropchak stated that it may encourage
them to enter into the contract sooner and moves them along in the building
process. The extended term option payment is the cost to tie-up the parcel. Lahr
stated that it seems like a lot of work when the goal is to simply get developers to
cover their costs. Frie noted that there are always delays in any project and so this
may be a bit frustrating.
The HRA briefly discussed the title issues occurring on the Monticello Business
Center. Koropchak noted that there is not clear title on the business park
property. The City is questioning why these questions weren't answered prior to
closing with Chadwick, with the purchase of title insurance. Frie asked who
discovered the problem. Koropchak reported that Dahlheimer's attorney caught it
through a survey conducted by Dahlheimer's. However, the City is still hoping to
close Monday. The goal of the City is to provide a quick and easy transaction.
Frie suggested that title insurance package be supplied by the City.
Lahr noted other changes in the agreement relating to the option payment and
extension payment. Lahr stated that he is concerned about the administrative
issues associated with this policy.
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Mayer asked if Lahr is suggesting removing the option altogether. Lahr stated
that perhaps the lIRA should instead require more up front and then reimburse.
Koropchak asked what happens if plans are made and no progress is made into
getting into other agreement. Lahr stated that it is at their expense. Koropchak
stated that it is much more difficult to recoup those costs. Lahr stated that is why
the City may want to collect more up front. Koropchak noted that the
development agreement requires that Koropchak reconcile the costs, and then the
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developer than pays those costs, adding a layer of administrative work.
Koropchak noted that the BRA had been concerned about scaring buyers of I with
higher fees as a mitigation of that proposal. hie noted this agreement is primarily
for the Business Center for property purchase.
Frie asked if the HRA could exclude the option and leave the rate at $10,000.
Mayer stated that if the HRA requires the large deposit up front, that seems to
make number 10 null and void. Koropchak stated that the contract also outlines
the terms relating to the date of offer.
[<'rie asked if other communities are developing business parks and would be in
competition with Monticello, where the up-front fee may be a concern.
Koropchak stated that there are not many business parks being developed or with
much land availability in surrounding communities.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LAHR TO REMOVE THE EXTENSION
OPTION AND TO REQUIRE AN UP-FRONT DEPOSIT OF $10,000 ON THE
DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT AS PROPOSED.
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FRIE.
MOTION CARRIED, 3-0.
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7. Payment of bills.
Frie asked if some of the bills related to the Sun Tide project. Koropchak
confirmed.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FRIE TO AUTHORIZE PAYMENT' OF THE
BILLS.
Mayer asked if moving the stockpile on the Dahlheimer's site cost $70,000.
Koropchak stated that the bill was in the amount of $45,000. LaIn clarified that
the grading was to be final grading. Koropchak stated that in October, the HRA
approved $25,637.50 to remove the stockpile. She stated that the grading bill
carne in at exactly the amount within the contract.
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDREWS
MOTION CARRIED, 3-0.
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8. Consideration of the Executive Director's Report.
Koropchak noted that construction of Landmark Square project probably
wouldn't start until spring. Koropchak stated that the developer is considering a
reduction in the quality of product due to increased costs. Koropchak stated that
the bank has provided evidence of financing. Lahr noted for the record that any
reduction in the quality has to go back through the Planning Commission and
DAT. Koropchak also noted that the project is on a time clock due to agreement
deadlines.
Koropchsk stated that Rocky MOlUltain, the Dhalheimer's project is now
scheduled to close on the ih and that the EDA had closed on the Tapper loan.
Koropchak noted the dates and times of the upcoming Fiber Optics and Marketing
committee meetings.
Koropchak reported that a copy of the response from the State Auditor was in the
Commissioners packets.
Koropchak stated that A VR was asked to responds to the City's ofTer by the
Council meeting on the 14th.
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Koropchak reported that Barry Fluth had indicated that the property at 107 Locust
Street had come up for salc and had stated that if the liRA is interested in the
property, Masters 51h Avenue would do the negotiating. The Commissioners
indicated no interest in the property.
9. Committee Reports:
None.
10. Other Business
Koropchak reported that she had completed a survey prepared by the League of
MN Cities which asked for information on eminent domain related to projects
other than public improvements. Koropchak had reported on the Front Street
project, later known as the Hans Hagen Riverwalk development.
Koropchak stated that there are about 18 cities that have used eminent domain for
that type of purpose. HRA attorney Steve Bubul expects that eminent domain for
economic development purposes will be a subject of much discussion in the
legislature. The League is now looking for communities to volunteer to serve as
case studies for further discussion and review.
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Koropchak reported that the League sent a summary from her telephone
conversation. Koropchak had asked the Mayor's opinion on the issue of eminent
domain and the possibility of aeting as a ease study, as it is a community
sensitivity issue. The Mayor had responded more in terms of where he saw the
City's stance on eminent domain, rather than from the case study perspective.
Koropchak noted that acting as a ease study could be very public. The Monticello
HRA could be in the newspaper, or called to testify to the legislature on this item.
She asked the HRA how they wanted to proceed.
Lahr inquired whether the HRA can check off which items they would like to do
in terms of providing further information. Koropchak stated that she did not think
so. Lahr indicated that he is not in favor of participating. Lahr stated that it is too
divisive an issue at this time, and that Monticello does not need that type of
exposure.
Frie asked how the League believes this study would affect the legislature.
Koropchak stated that it provides evidence of legitimate uses.
Lar stated that the HRA knows their case well, but he is not sure it would be
understood by those without the direct experience in the matter.
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McrrlON BY COMMISSIONER LAHR TO NOT TO PARTICIPATE AS A
CASE STUDY FOR THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA'S REPORT ON
EMINENT DOMAIN.
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FRIE.
MOTION CARRIED, 3-0.
11. Adjournment
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FRIE TO ADJOURN AT 7:10 PM.
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDREWS.
MOTION CARRIED, 3-0.
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