Planning Commission Minutes 11-08-1983
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MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING - MONTICELLO PLANNING COMMISSION
November 8, 1983 - 7:30 P.M.
Members Present: Joyce Dowling, Richard Carlson, Don Cochran
and Ed Schaffer.
Members Absent: President Jim Ridgeway
Staff Present: Thomas Eidem, Rick Wolfsteller, Gary Anderson.
The meeting was called to order by acting Chairperson Don Cochran
at 7:46 P.M.
2. Approval of the Minutes of the Regular October 4, 1983, Planning
Commission Meeting.
Motion was made by Joyce Dowling, seconded by Ed SChaffer, to
approve the minutes of the regular Monticello Planning Commission
Meeting of October 4, 1983.
3.
Public Hearing - Marvin Scherer - Variance Request to Build a
Garage in Excess of 1,000 sq. ft.
Mr. Scherer was present to discuss his proposed building of a
storage building on property currently owned south of County Road
39, Golf Course Road. Mr. Scherer explained that he purchased
the property approximately 20 years ago and at that time had
obtained a permit to build a shed there in which to store his
vehicles, etc. At that time he didn't go ahead with his building
project because he had also built a new house in the Cities and
planned to pay that one off before he built a shed here in Monticello.
Mr. Scherer also indicated he had been sent two blight notices
from the City and one from the City Attorney's office to clean up
his blighted area on his lot. Mr. Scherer indicated by putting
up the building he would be getting the cars in under storage and
cleaning up the entire lot area. It would be a definite improvement
to the area than what currently exists there. Acting Chairperson
Don Cochran asked for any public input. Mr. Bruce Wachter,
representing Griefnow Plumbing and Heating, the adjacent property
owner next to Mr. Scherer's property, was in objection to having
any buildings built in an area that is zoned R-l. Mr. Wachter
indicated that the Griefnow building itself can be stripped out in
the interior and converted into a house and that was the original
intent of the building when it was built. At this point the
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Chairperson recognized the opinion of the City staff. The City
staff's suggestion was to approve the variance Request and that
would eliminate the blight notice area and add more tax base to
the current project area than what exists. Motion was made by
Ed Schaffer with no second to deny the Variance Request. Motion
died for lack of second. Motion by Richard Carlson, seconded by
Joyce Dowling, to approve the variance of the storage building to
be built in excess of 1,000 sq. ft. and that the building would be
a non-conforming building in an R-l Zone. Motion carried in a
3 to 1 margin with Richard Carlson, Joyce Dowling, and Don Cochran
voting in favor, Ed Schaffer voting in opposition.
4.
Public Hearing - Marilyn Lanz - Variance Request, Simple subdivision
Variance Minimum Lot Size and Sideyard Variance.
Marilyn Lanz was present to propose her simple subdivision of the
existing lots and give some background into the two properties. She
indicated due to the size of the small house and there not being
enough room to expand, she would like to have the property subdivided,
therefore, being able to sell off both portions of the property as
two separate parcels. In doing so it would be a more marketable
property than it would be if sold all as one property. Also,
within her subdivision request she is requesting a sideyard variance
on the east side. The building currently is set 8.4 feet from the
property lot line, and the current garage on the other parcel is
within l~ feet of the proposed new subdivision lot line. Chairman
Don Cochran asked if any conditions should be attached to this simple
subdivision request. Zoning Administrator Anderson indicated to
him that no conditions would be needed in that if the property was
destroyed another house could be built on the same property as long
as it stayed within the variance setbacks that are requested to be
approved. Motion was made by Joyce Dowling, seconded by Richard
Carlson, to approve the simple subdivision request and also to approve
the sideyard variance as presented, the house to be set within 8.4
feet of the east side lot line and the garage to be located within l~
feet of the east side new proposed subdivision lot line. Motion
carried unanimously.
5.
Public Hearing - Murfin Landscaping - Variance Request, Rezoning
Conditional Use, Rezone R-l to B-4, Rezoning to Allow outdoor Sales
in a B-4 Zone, Screening and Hard Surfaced Parking Variances.
Zoning Administrator Gary Anderson presented to the Planning Commission
members the proposed layout of Murfin Landscaping outdoor sales site,
indicating to Commission members the different layout of the proposed
sales lot. At this time questions were directed to Mr. Murfin, Murfin
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Landscaping, for his input into his proposed outdoor sales lot.
Mr. Murfin indicated that this would be just a seasonal lot, and
the business actually would be primarily operated as a display
lot to show the different services and the products which his
company does offer. At his proposed site, not being used for
anything at the present and due to the size of the proposed lot,
the actuality of the building being proposed there would be very
minute due to the setbacks required off of Highway 75 and Hart
Boulevard. Mr. John Bondhus, owner of the property, also eluded
to the fact it would definitely be improving the area that is in
existence already and that the lot would always be kept in the
utmost neat array, which the business is oriented to. Mr. Bondhus
referred to the rezoning request as a buffer zone to separate two
zones rather than spot zoning to suit an outdoor sales lot business
as Mr. Murfin has proposed. At this time Chairperson Don Cochran
opened the discussion to public input. Mr. John Kasper was present
to discuss his opposition to the proposed development of the property
due to the viewing and the allowing of a B-4, a business, strictly
in an R-l Zone. Mr. Kasper also presented the Planning Commission
members a letter from his neighbors, Dan and Betty McConnon, which
was read to the Planning Commission and the people in attendance.
The McConnons voiced their opposition to the potential project as
suffering from significant problems already in existence without
adding another problem to a strictly residential zone. Mr. Larry
Muehlbauer, resident of the City but not an affected property owner,
also expressed his opposition strictly from the residential standpoint
that an area that is zoned residential should strictly be residential
and not be allowed to have a business within a residential area. City
staff, taking no position at this time on the project, indicated to
Planning Commission members strictly to view it as a rezoning request
and then go from there. Looking at it strictly from the rezoning
request, it would definitely be spot zoning, which is not recommended
in the comprehensive Plan which was adopted some years ago. Staff
also indicated to Planning Commission members that the area proposed
would be a definite improvement to the area, especially during the
summer months when the foliage is on the trees. But then, again,
it is strictly a seasonal business and could be here today and gone
tomorrow. Planning Commission members took the above statements
into consideration. Motion was made by Richard Carlson, seconded by
Joyce Dowling, to deny Mr. Murfin's rezoning request to rezone R-l
to B-4 to allow an outdoor sales lot. Motioned carried unanimously.
6.
Public Hearing - John Sandberg - Rezoning Request, R-l Zone to R-3 Zone.
Mr. Sandberg was present to present his proposal request to rezone
R-l to R-3 Zoning. Within the rezoning request Mr. Sandberg intends
to build up to a 20-unit apartment or condominium complex, preferrably
condominium complex, on the proposed site. Mr. sandberg related
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back in time to before the property was originally purchased up
to the present on the options that he has available in the purchase
of the property. Mr. Sandberg indicated to all members present
that condominiums are a housing concern of the present, and right
now, due to the lack of available housing, housing on precious
property next to the river has become a very high commodity in
the real estate market. He is intending to build choice quality
condominium units in hopes of attracting elderly retired people
to relocate into his proposed condominium unit. Mr. Sandberg's
architect was also present to present a proposed building layout
and the amenities to go with it. Mr. Thompson indicated some
of the amenities planned for Mr. Sandberg's proposed condominiums
were very similar to the one which he just completed in the
Minneapolis/St. Paul area, the main emphasis on character and
quality to combine with residential living standards of a single
family home combining it into a one unit complex. Commission
members asked Mr. Thompson regarding Mr. Sandberg's proposed
construction time table. He indicated possibly getting started
in the summer with completion by early/late fall next year primarily
depending on what the market analysis is in regard to what the perspective
buyers in the Monticello area would be looking for in a building of
this type. Commission members also asked him the proposed height
of the top of the building of this proposed plan. Mr. Thompson
indicated it would be just a little more than 28 feet in height,
basically about the same height as the maximum height of eXisting
houses in the area. Chairman Don Cochran opened the public hearing
for public input. Mrs. Larry Muehlbauer questioned the difference
in the traffic pattern of the proposed condominium versus the apartment
living. Mr. Larry Muehlbauer presented his views on R-l zoning and
that his initial investment was for R-l zoning of the property and
that's what he intended to remain. The following concerned surrounding
residents in the affected area also expressed opposition and are
included below:
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Don and Kay Nicolai
Don Pitt
Jerry Anderson
Mike Girko
Clarence McCarty,rental property owner, also expressed his opposition.
But if Mr. Sandberg's proposal was granted, he would increase the
size of his rental unit from one unit to more than one unit. This
ended the public testimony from the concerned residents in the affected
area. Mr. Sandberg countered that he has no other intentions to
develop other properties in the area or in any other part of town
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in regard to multi-family condominium units. Mr. Sandberg also
addressed the proposed traffic problem, indicating that in just
taking a random sample of the amount of cars in the area now
with each family having at least two cars, the clientele
that would be buying a condominium would be elderly people and
may have one car and some may not have any at all. Acting Chairman
Don Cochran read three letters from affected property owners in
the area of the proposed development and all had expressed no
interest in the project being approved. The following are those
affected property owners:
Alice and Del Emmel
Roger and Jeannette Host
Alice Menzel - letter was sent by the administrator
of her estate - Karl Menzel
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Cochran referred back to staff for their input in regard to Mr.
Sandberg's proposal. Mr. Tom Eidem referred to the language in the
Comprehensive Plan that essentially both parties involved, the
affected property owners in the surrounding area and the applicant
or developer, John Sandberg, are right in that in our C~nprehensive
Plan we do address proposed multi-family dwellings to be built in
some R-I areas. Also, the homeowners are correct in that in other
areas it states that we only want R-l housing and no multi-family
dwellings within our R-l housing. So it is contradictory. Mr.
Eidem made a suggestion that a study committee be formed of a Planning
Commission member, a Council member, and an administrative staff
member, a consulting planner, and the City Attorney. Zoning
Administrator Gary Anderson presented to Planning Commission members
a phone conversation memo from the consulting planner, John Uban,
to one of our secretaries. In essence, consulting planner John
Uban's concerns were negative to Mr. Sandberg's proposed development.
Planning Commission members took into respect the conflict of interest
in our originally adopted Comprehensive Plan. Motion by Joyce
Dowling, seconded by Richard Carlson, to table the proposed Sandberg
rezoning request from R-l to R-3. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Joyce Dowling, seconded by Richard Carlson, to set up a
special meeting with a study committee formed of Planning Commission
member Don Cochran, Councilmember Fran Fair, Administrative Staff
Person Tom Eidem, Consulting planner John Uban, City Attorney Gary
Pringle, the meeting tentatively set at 4:00 P.M., November 14, 1983.
Motion by Joyce Dowling, seconded by Richard Carlson, to set up a
special meeting date to hear the special study committee's action,
that date being November 22, 1983, 7:30 P.M.
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7. Planning Commission Review - John Sandberg
Subdivision Plat.
proposed Par West
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Mr. John Sandberg, along with his engineer, Bob Rohlin of Meyer-
Rohlin and Associates, were present to present plans for Planning
Commission member's review on a proposed Par West Subdivision
Plat. This not being a public hearing and only for Planning
Commission member's review, they feel it's a worthy project and
set a tentative .Planning Commission public hearing date for
the hearing of the proposed Par West Subdivision Plat. Acting
Chairman Don Cochran asked for staff input in regard to the
proposed subdivision plat. Zoning Administrator Anderson responded
that the City has only two problems they see within his proposed
subdivision preliminary plat. One would be he has two areas that
he would like zoned to R-3 and the area there currently is zoned
R-1. In a preliminary subdivision plat proposal, this would be
looked at as a rezoning of these two lots. If it was looked at as
a Planned Unit Development, a PUD project, the two areas proposed
to be zoned R-3 would be looked at to combine different types of
zoning--commercial, residential, and multi-family--all into one
project. Mr. Rohlin responded that they intended to propose it
as a subdivision plat with Planning Commission members seriously
looking at rezoning of two outlots in a proposed subdivision plat
rezoned from R-l to R-3 with the westerly most proposed outlot
being for a multi-family apartment building and the easterly most
portion of the outlot being proposed for approximately a 20-unit
tower house construction along the golf course property.
Motion by Joyce Dowling, seconded by Richard Carlson, to set a
tentative date of December 6, 1983, 7:30 P.M., for the proposed
preliminary hearing of the Par West Subdivision plat.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ITEMS
1. The next tentative date for the Monticello Planning Commission
Meeting will be December 6, 1983, 7:30 P.M.
It was presented to the Planning Commission members by Zoning
Administrator Gary Anderson that the date was moved up one week
due to the Christmas holidays and also that the City Council
would only be meeting once in December. Motion by Richard Carlson,
seconded by Joyce Dowling, to set the next regular Planning Commission
Meeting date for December 6, 1983, 7:30 P.M. At this time Planning
Commission member Ed Schaffer left the meeting at approximately 10:03 P.M.
The following additional items were presented to the Planning
Commission members.
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1. Anderson presented the final plat for Meadow Oak Third Addition.
Anderson pointed out to Commission members a couple of items
that would have to be done prior to setting the date for
the Council public hearing of the final plat approval of
Meadow Oak Third Addition. The first item would be that an
environmental impact study would have to be made. The
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second item would be that they have two cul-de-sac areas
currently named Red Oak Circle in the Meadow Oak Third
Addition, and they would have to rename the cul-de-sac
in that area. Motion by Richard Carlson, seconded by
Joyce Dowling, to pass on to the City Council to set a
tentative date for the public hearing on the final plat
approval of the Meadow Oak Third Addition contingent
upon the environmental impact study being made and the
renaming of the cul-de-sac areas.
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2. Gus LaFromboise, Construction 5 Project, presented his
new proposal for a 24-unit apartment building to be
built on the corner of Washington Street and Lauring
Lane. Mr. LaFromboise requested Planning Commission
approval to waive the public hearing process for his
Variance Request to build a 24-unit apartment building
with less than the minimum amount of lot size required,
therefore, requesting about 3,000 sq. ft. variance.
He also asked for granting of a Conditional Use Request
to build an apartment building of more than 12 units.
Mr. LaFromboise indicated that due to the lateness of
the construction season, he would like to get something
started yet late this fall with possible early spring
completion. Mr. LaFromboise indicated he has withdrawn
his request to attempt to purchase the proposed Hennepin
Street which the City currently owns. Planning Commission
members had a few problems with the waiving of the public
hearing process and asked Mr. LaFromboise if he could
possibly wait until the special Planning Commission meeting
tentatively scheduled for November 22; and at that time
they would hear his Variance Request and Conditional Use
Request. Mr. LaFromboise countered that if that is the
soonest he could get it done then that is the soonest he
could have it done and indicated he would be in agreement
with it. Motion by Joyce Dowling, seconded by Richard
Carlson, to set a public hearing date for November 22,
1983, 7:30 P.M., to hear Mr. LaFromboise's Conditional Use
Request and Variance Request. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Joyce Dowling, seconded by Richard Carlson,
to adjourn the meeting. The meeting adjourned at 11:09 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Gary e l's on
Zoning Administrator
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