City Council Minutes 07-09-2007
Council Minutes: 7/9/07
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING - MONTICELLO CITY COUNCIL
Monday July 9, 2007 - 7 p.m.
Members Present:
Clint Herbst, Wayne Mayer, Tom Perrault, Brian Stumpf and Susie
Wojchouski.
Members Absent:
None
1. Call to Order.
Mayor Herbst called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. and declared a quorum present. The
Pledge of Allegiance was said.
2A. Approve minutes of June 25. 2007 Rel!ular Council Meetinl!.
Tom Perrault noted on item #5N that Susie Wojchouski had seconded the motion and the
motion passed unanimously.
TOM PERRAULT MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 25, 2007
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE CORRECTION NOTED. SUSIE
WOJCHOUSKl SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2B. Approve minutes of June 25. 2007 Special Council Meetinl! - Rental Housinl! Ordinance
BRIAN STUMPF MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 25, 2007
SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING RELATING TO THE RENTAL HOUSING ORDINANCE
WITH TYPOGRAPHICAL CORRECTIONS. TOM PERRAULT SECONDED THE
MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. Consideration of addinl! items to the al!enda.
The following items were added: 1) Update on group homes; 2) Update on 6th Street Sidewalk
Project; 3) School Boulevard and Fallon Avenue; 4) Weeds on Meadow Oak Drive.
Mayor Herbst complimented the Public Works Department on the clean up they are doing in
preparation for River Fest. River Fest brings in a number of people from outside the
community and it's an occasion where the City should look its best. He urged residents to
what they could to help make the city clean and appealing. Brian Stumpf commended Ollie
Koropchak on the work she does in keeping the flower in the median along CSAH 75 in good
shape. Susie Wojchouski pointed out that the parade route passes the Community Center.
MCC parking will not be available for those coming to the parade. Parking for the wedding
being held at the MCC will be at the liquor store parking lot.
4. Citizen comments. petitions. requests and concerns.
No one spoke under citizens comments.
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5. Consent A2enda:
A. Consideration ofratifying hires and departures for MCC, Water and Liquor Store.
Recommendation: Ratify the hires and departures as identified.
B. Consideration of approving appointment to fill vacancy on Parks Commission.
Recommendation: Approve the appointment of Gene Emanuel to fill the vacancy on
the Parks Commission with his term running through December 2009.
C. Consideration of authorizing appraisal on the Jameson parcel. Recommendation:
Authorize ordering an appraisal to determine the value of the Jameson parcel with
staff to obtain quotes from qualified appraisers and authorize the work accordingly.
D. Consideration of resolution approving renewal of charitable gambling license for
VFW Post #8731. Recommendation: Adopt the resolution authorizing the State
Gambling Control Board to approve renewal of the charitable gambling license for
VFW Post #8731 to conduct charitable gambling activities at 713 Cedar Street.
E. Consideration of offering Finance Director position to Torn Kelly.
Recommendation: Authorize staff to offer the Finance Director position to Torn
Kelly, current Finance Director for White Bear Township and direct staff to offer a
starting salary.
F. Public Hearing - Consideration of a request for appeal of denial of variance to signage
height and area. Recommendation: No action is required as St. Benedict's has
determined not to proceed with an appeal.
G. Consideration of a request for simple subdivision, rezoning from B-4 (Regional
Business) to PS (Public/Semi-Public) and amendment to planned unit development.
Applicant: St. Benedict's Senior Care Facility/CentraCare, St. Henry's Catholic
Church and Horne Depot, Inc. Recommendation: Approve the request for a simple
subdivision, rezoning and amendment to the planned unit development based on a
finding that the proposed use is consistent with the intent ofthe PS District and the
existing planned unit development and subject to the simple subdivision being
recorded with Wright County in October 2007.
H. Consideration of placement of noise ordinance enforcement signs at all entrances to
the City of Monticello. Recommendation: Authorize the purchase of signs and
materials to erect 13 signs indicating "noise ordinance enforced" at the entrances to
the City of Monticello at an estimated cost including freight of$820.25 with the funds
coming from the Public Works budget.
1. Consideration of approving plans, specifications and bids for Hillcrest Park Play
Structure. Recommendation: Approve the plans, specifications and bid from
Midwest Playscapes Playground System for the play structure at Hillcrest Park.
J. Consideration of modifying composition of the Fiber Optics Committee.
Recommendation: Move to accept the request ofLynn Dahl to step off the Fiber
Optic Committee.
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Items #5C, #5H, #51 and #5J were pulled from the consent agenda. Wayne Mayer
commented on the financial report received from the VFW on their charitable gambling
operations.
BRIAN STUMPF APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF
ITEMS #5C, #5H, #51 AND #5J. TOM PERRAULT SECONDED THE MOTION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. Consideration of items removed from the consent al!:enda for discussion.
#5C Authorizing appraisal on Jameson property: At the present time the railroad crossing at
Territorial Road will be eliminated in 2008 under the terms of an agreement with Burlington
Northern Railroad. A new access will have to be provided to the Jameson property which
would be equivalent to the current access provided to the site by Territorial Road. The City
has been working with the property owners to get this access established. The Jameson
family would like additional access because they want higher density development for the site
than what there presently is. Higher densitpr development of this property is not agreeable to
Busch, the adjacent property owner so the~ would not be in favor of providing anything more
than the equivalent to the current access.
Jeff O'Neill presented three options for the Council to consider: I) Cooperation between the
owners in an effort to resolve the access issue; 2) Condemnation ofland for the roadway
access and 3) City acquisition of the Jameson parcel. City staff felt that acquisition of the
parcel was the best option. Staff was requesting Council authorization to either get an
appraisal done on the Jameson parcel or negotiate a sale price with the property owner.
Wayne Mayer stated he pulled this item because he didn't feel the City should be dealing with
real estate issues. He didn't see anything wrong with Busch giving nominal access to the
Jameson parcel. He thought acquisition ofthe parcel could stick the City with a
redevelopment issue. Clint Herbst asked whose cost it would be to get the access road put in.
Staff indicated the City would pick up the cost of the road. Clint Herbst noted that because
of the terrain constructing a road to this parcel could be costly. It was felt in comparing the
cost of the road construction to the acquisition of the parcel it may be less costly for the City
to acquire the land. It was thought that the road construction could run $250,000-$300,000.
Wayne Mayer asked if any other market analysis has been done on the property. Clint Herbst
pointed out that St. Benedict's had looked at the site. Clint Herbst suggested staff get updated
information on the cost of constructing the road.
SUSIE WOJCHOUSKI MOVED TO AUTHORIZE PROCEEDING WITH GETTING A
PURCHASE PRICE FOR THE JAMESON PARCEL AND MOVE FORWARD ON
GETTING COSTS UPDATED FOR THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO
INCLUDE ANY MARKET ANALYSIS DONE ON THE SITE WITH THE
INFORMATION TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNCIL. CLINT HERBST
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
#5H Noise Ordinance Enforcement Signs: Brian Stumpf asked if the noise ordinance could
be enforced without having to put up 13 signs. John Simola responded that he didn't feel the
ordinance was enforceable without the signs. City Attorney, Tom Scott said unless there is
some provision in the ordinance that requires posting of the noise ordinance, you do not
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generally have to have signs. Brian Stumpffelt if the ordinance could be enforced without
having to post the signs that is how it should be done.
BRIAN STUMPF MOVED TO TABLE ACTION ON THE ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT
MEETING TO ALLOW THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE.
In further discussion of the item, the Council felt that Section 6-1-10 of the City Ordinances
should be included in the next newsletter. Wayne Mayer felt this was an ordinance that most
people ignored. He stated that people should not be afraid to call the police when there is a
noisy disturbance. Clint Herbst suggested using a portable sign that is placed in different areas
on a temporary basis. Wayne Mayer felt the installation of "noise ordinance enforced" signs
would be a preventative measure and would also serve to reinforce the fact that there is a
noisen ordinance. Susie Wojchouski suggested that perhaps the number of signs be limited to
four signs, one at each entrance to the community. Brian Stumpf felt there should be some
common sense involved and an individual should not have to be reminded of the ordinance all
the time.
WAYNE MAYER SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
#51 Hillcrest Park Play Structure: Tom Perrault stated the reason he pulled this item was
because at the Parks Commission meeting it was discussed having a structure that included
elements for those users between the ages of2-5. The sketch from Midwest Playscapes had
the age group from 5-12. Parks Superintendent Seth Nelson stated that the lower deck and
slide were for the 2-5 age group while the upper deck elements were for the 5-12 age group.
Susie Wojchouski asked about the Eagle Scout participation on the project. Seth Nelson
stated he had talked to the Eagle Scout about the project and came up with the supervised
installation of the play structure. By having the installation done in this manner it would save
approximately $7,000 in cost.
John Rensberger, 9675 Haug Avenue NE, explained the Eagle Scout project he is proposing.
He will be working with the playground equipment representatives on the installation process.
Clint Herbst asked about the play structure being in the area of the power lines. Seth Nelson
stated the structure will be grounded.
SUSIE WOJCHOUSKI MOVED TO APPROVE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS AND
BID FROM MIDWEST PLA YSCAPES PLAYGROUND SYSTEM FOR THE PLAY
STRUCTURE AT HILLCREST PARK. TOM PERRAULT SECONDED THE MOTION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
#5G Sf. Henry's simple subdivision, rezoning and amendment to planned unit development:
Although this item was not pulled from the consent agenda, Wayne Mayer asked about the
fees for simple subdivision that were being waived. Staff informed him that the application
fee for a simple subdivision is $200 and the deposit, which is based on acreage and with the
site being less than one acre, was $2,000. The reason for waiving these fees was one of
hardship because change in the alignment of 7th Street as a result of the interchange project
created the situation.
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#5J ModifYing Composition of the Fiber Optic Committee: Brian Stumpf questioned what
the costs were for consulting fees as there was nothing listed in the agenda item and he felt
there should be some idea given as to what the City is expecting to pay for consultants. Jeff
O'Neill said they are not asking for any additional funding but only to have a consultant on
board to help with marketing using the fun4s that have already been allocated. Brian Stumpf
said he would like to see something as to where the City stands on funds that were allocated
and expended.
Wayne Mayer indicated that it is just an additional consultant to share funding that was
already appropriated. Staff will give an update on what was appropriated and what has been
expended. Tom Perrault asked if the consulting work would have to go out for bid. Tom
Scott stated that consulting services are not subject to the bid requirements.
BRIAN STUMPF MOVED TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL REQUESTING THAT LYNN
DAHL STEP DOWN FROM THE FIBER OPTIC COMMITTEE. SUSIE WOJCHOUSKI
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. Update on Stormwater Pond issues and public informational meetinl!s.
City Engineer, Bruce Westby informed the Council that staff receives numerous requests from
residents asking about stormwater easements and ponds. The questions relate to pond design,
pond vegetation and why there is water standing in the pond. As the City continues to grow
it is anticipated this will continue to be an issue. He is proposing to hold a number of
informational meetings to educate the residents about the purpose of the ponding system and
to make them aware of what can or cannot be placed within drainage easements. Bruce
Westby cited instances where retaining walls, structures or extensive landscaping has been
placed into the easement area. He would also like to do a meeting with realtors to make sure
that they are aware of the issues and to encourage them to let the purchaser of a property
know as well. The meetings will be noticed so if any of the Council wish to attend they are
encouraged to do so.
8. Consideration to waive costs related to planninl! application review AST Sports.
Gerald Paulson requested the Council to consider waiving payment of fees for costs that were
incurred relating to the development of the AST Sports building. Angela Schumann from
Community Development detailed the various deposits and expenses relating to the AST
Sports building. Certain fees were the result of the application that had to go before the
Planning Commission and other fees were collected with the building permit. Total expenses
for the planning application process came to approximately $2,300 and the deposit submitted
by Mr. Paulson was in the amount of $1 ,000.
The discussion focused on semantics with Mr. Paulson indicating that it was not clear in the
language of any documents submitted that the plan review fees for the application were
something separate and different from the plan review fee charged as part ofthe building
permit.
Brian Stumpf asked if customers are made aware if they are running out of escrow funds.
Cathy Shuman from the Finance Department stated that because of the time frame that
invoices are submitted it is not always possible to provide current information. Staff noted
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that no other developers had questioned the difference between the planning review fees and
the plan review done as part of the building permit.
Gerald Paulson, 20201 215th Avenue, Big 'Lake, owner of AST Sports at 9749 Hart Boulevard
addressed the Council stating he did not typify his position as waiving anything. They are
asking the City Council to recognize that they have paid $2,600 for plan review. A $1,000
deposit was paid as per direction of city staff. Gerald Paulson said what should be noted is it
is described as planning application deposit but it is actually planning review deposit. He
quoted from a letter stating that the deposit covered plan review. The point is that they have
paid every fee or deposit requested of them by city staff. He noted on the building permits
$1,069.70 was for plan review. He felt the $1,000 deposit covered plan review. $2,679.70
was paid in the course of the project for plan review. Staff indicated that there was
miscommunication in this process. Gerald Paulson said there was no communication until
after the alleged overage. Only after he received the invoice from the City was there
communication on the fees. Gerald Paulson pointed out in response to his request for
information, the City submitted what was described as a detailed financial history report
relating to his project.
He stated that $250 and not $125 was paid for the planning application. Staff noted that the
original application was for a conditional use permit which is $125 but there was no
conditional use permit allowed for this use so the applicant had to apply for rezoning which is
$250.
Clint Herbst said that the City is at fault in part because it took so long to get the information
out to Mr. Paulson but he didn't feel City residents should be paying for someone else's
development costs. Clint Herbst said he was not in favor of waiving these fees. Clint Herbst
felt the City has made significant effort to make the planning process easier and faster.
Wayne Mayer asked if language clarification has been put in place to make that distinction
between planning application review deposit and building plan review. Wayne Mayer asked
Gerald Paulson if staff has made the process easier for him. Gerald Paulson responded that
there was a lot of back and forth with staff about signs for the business. The building permit
was issued for both parcels and then the City required them to record an administrative lot
division. He also noted some difficulty in getting numbers for plantings needed on the site.
They were initially informed 22 trees were needed. When they met with staff the number of
trees had changed so they ended up with 50 or more trees. He stated staff was cordial and
polite but it was quite a process to get this resolved. Gerald Paulson said while it is good that
staff has taken steps to make this process better, he questioned why it couldn't have been
available when they were in the process. He said they did everything city staff asked them to
do. He is not concerned about what is going on now but was going on when they had their
project. He takes umbrage when it is suggested they are trying to get something for nothing.
Brian Stumpf commended staff for making changes to the process to make it simpler for
people to understand. He has a hard time going to the taxpayers for the $1,300 that is due in
fees. He felt if the process was that confusing then perhaps waiving of the fees is justified.
Clint Herbst said the City is not responsible to make sure that everyone has equal knowledge
about the process. He felt if you receive the service, you should pay for it. Susie W ojchouski
questioned when the first notice of additional fees was received. Gerald Paulson said it was
June of 2006 or approximately a year after the certificate of occupancy was issued.
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Clint Herbst felt the City can't take fees off just because someone doesn't understand the
process. Wayne Mayer asked if there is still confusion on Mr. Paulson's part why that
amount of money is owed. Is he in agreement with amount owed or is it the timeliness of the
billing that he questions. Gerald Paulson said that he is here not because they were confused
but because they were told to pay $2,600 for plan review and that is what they paid for plan
review.
Jeff O'Neill said the application form state that the applicant will be responsible for all
necessary consulting expense. The building permit and the building permit fees are separate
from that.
Wayne Mayer asked how long it took to get the final bill from the city. Staff explained in the
planning process getting the final reconciliation may take 4-6 months and the applicant is told
that it may take up to six months for that reconciliation process to be completed. Wayne
Mayer noted that what is in place now is not what Gerald Paulson had to deal with. While
making the changes were good it didn't help Mr. Paulson any. Susie Wojchouski said she
understood why there might be some confusion. She did question the time between the
certificate of occupancy and getting the invoice. Tom Perrault felt the development costs
should not be paid by other taxpayers.
Wayne Mayer asked if there were still bills out there from other projects. Cathy Shuman
asked ifhe meant which ones were not reconciled. Wayne Mayer said the Council has been
trying hard to expedite the process. Gerald Paulson is caught in the time warp between the
old process and the new process. If Mr. Paulson's is one ofthe last projects then he doesn't
have a problem with waiving the fees but he doesn't want to open a flood gate. Cathy
Shuman said there were a number of developments in the same group as Gerald Paulson's but
they have all paid their billed fees.
CLINT HERBST MOVED TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR WAIVING OF
DEVELOPMENT RELATED FEES IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,300.45 FOR AST SPORTS.
TOM PERRAULT SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION FAILED WITH BRIAN
STUMPF, WAYNE MAYER AND SUSIE WOJCHOUSKI VOTING IN OPPOSITION.
BRIAN STUMPF MOVED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR WAIVING OF CITY
EXPENSES AS INVOICED ON JUNE 29,2006 AS RELATED TO THE AST SPORTS
PLANNING APPLICATION. WAYNE MAYER SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION
CARRIED WITH CLINT HERBST AND TOM PERRAULT VOTING IN OPPOSITION.
Clint Herbst felt this action was opening a can of worms and added that all developers should
be treated the same in that they pay for the cost of developing. Wayne Mayer pointed out that
in an earlier agenda item the development fees for St. Henry's had been waived.
9. Review of 2007 annual sidewalk inspection report and authorization of repair work.
Public Works Director John Simola reviewed the 2007 Sidewalk Inspection Report. The
report indicated that ten panels needed replacement and approximately 59 panels needed
maintenance. John Simola explained the grid system and the City's policy for repairs to
sidewalks on the grid system. The City will repair or replace up to two panels per property at
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no cost to the property owner for sidewalk that is on the grid system. John Simola noted that
one property had six panels that needed replacement. Since this is on the grid system the City
would be replacing two of the panels and the property owner would be responsible for the
remaining four. I
Clint Herbst felt if the sidewalk was on the grid system the City should pay for the entire cost
of maintenance and replacement of panels unless the property owner was responsible for the
damage to the sidewalk. He also suggested that if any of the sidewalk repairs were in the
area of future street projects the City should look at including the sidewalk work as part of
the street project. John Simola said he will check with the property owner that had the six
panels that need to be replaced to determine how the damage was done.
John Simola said staff tries to get the sidewalk report to the Council in July to allow adequate
time for staff to get the work done. Susie Wojchouski asked that at a future meeting the
Council be updated on the parking lots downtown. John Simola responded that he has
budgeted for repair work on the parking lots for a number of years but has been directed by
the Council not to move forward with it. The parking lots are now at the point where they
need to be replaced. The Council indicated that because ofthe possibility of redevelopment
in the area the work on the parking lot had been deferred. John Simola also brought up a
parking problem in the area of Sunny Fresh Foods. Vehicles are blocking the mailboxes of
the residents in the area adjacent to the facility. It was discussed that clustering the mailboxes
was a possible solution. John Simola noted that the striping information about Sandberg
Road will be brought up at the next meeting.
SUSIE WOJCHOUSKl MOVED TO ACCEPT THE 2007 SIDEWALK INSPECTION
REPORT AS PREPARED AND TO AUTHORIZE THE NECESSARY REPAIR WORK.
TOM PERRAULT SECONDED THE MOTION.
It was suggested that the motion include discussion with Sunny Fresh Foods on the curb
damage in their area as well as parking concerns and to look at where street projects were
proposed to see if the sidewalk repair could be incorporated as part of those project.
SUSIE WOJCHOUSKl AMENDED HER MOTION TO INCLUDE THE DISCUSSION
WITH SUNNY FRESH AND THE REVIEW OF STREET PROJECTS TO SEE WHERE
SIDEWALK REPAIR COULD BE INCORPORATED. TOM PERRAULT SECONDED
THE AMENDED MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Added Items:
Audio Visual Equipment: Clint Herbst noted that the City is continuing to work with getting the
audio equipment operating properly.
Group Homes: Jeff O'N eill submitted current statutes relating to group homes. Group homes are
considered a residential use and therefore should be allowed in any residential area. Brian Stumpf
asked ifthe group homes have to comply with the City's parking ordinance or whether they fall
outside the City's ordinance. Jeff O'Neill reported that the City of Golden Valley is trying to get
legislation set up so that they have authority similar to that of St. Paul or Minneapolis that restricts
how closely group homes are located to each other. Clint Herbst asked if the owners of group homes
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have to notify the City when and where they are locating in the City. He felt it was unfair for
adjacent properties not to be notified.
6th Street Sidewalk: City Engineer Bruce Westby informed the Council that an informational
meeting has been set up with the residents on the proposed sidewalk plans for July 17, 2007. Brian
Stumpf said a number of residents had expressed concern about the removal of trees because ofthe
construction. The feasibility report on the project will be coming back to the Council on July 23,
2007.
School Boulevard/Fallon Avenue: Tom Perrault indicated that a resident had asked that a four-way
stop sign be placed at the intersection. They felt it was necessary because of the increase in housing
in the area and with the proposed Chelsea Road construction project taking place. Bruce Westby
said he is not aware of any discussion that included establishing a four-way stop at this intersection
on a temporary basis and the intersection does not meet warrants to allow the installation of a four-
way stop on a permanent basis. Bruce Westby said there is a meeting scheduled with the school
district covering a number oftopics one of them being a four way stop at this intersection.
Brian Stumpf asked about the four-way stop sign that was approved to be installed at Deegan Avenue
and School Boulevard and why it has not been installed. Bruce Westby said that WSB has not
finished their study on the signage and speed limits for the area. Rather than putting up some signs
now and the rest when the study is finished they would do it all at one time. Susie W ojchouski asked
about the signs on the Broadway that were taken down. John Simola thought the County was
changing the mountings on the signs.
Weeds Meadow Oak Drive: The Council noted weeds in that area. There was some discussion if the
area of weeds was by Meadow Oak Drive or Meadow Oak Avenue. It was also brought up that
there is bush at the intersection of County Road 39 and Elm Street that impacts the vision of vehicles
traveling in the area.
10. Consideration of approvine payment of bills for Julv 2007.
BRIAN STUMPF MOVED TO APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF BILLS. TOM PERRAULT
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11. Adiourn.
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
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