MCC Advisory Board Minutes 04-29-2004COMMUNITY CENTER ADVISOR Y BOARD
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
APRIL 29, 2004 - 4:30 P.M.
ACADEMY ROOM
Board Members Present: Harvey Kendall -Chair, Richard Quick -Vice Chair, Sandra Theros and Bruce
Thielen
Staff Members Present: Jeff O'Neill -Deputy Administrator and Kitty Baltos-Director
Guests Present: Scott Ziessman, Owner Fantastic Sams
Meeting called to order by Harvey Kendall at 4:35 p.m.
2. ITEM 7 moved up to first item: Consideration of allowing partnerships with businesses as
sponsors of departments of the Community Center and defining policies or parameter for such
ventures. Scott Ziessman, Fantastic Sams Owner, shared the idea that he approached Kitty Baltos
with; the Community Center would present a coupon for dollars off Fantastic Sam's services and
as they were turned into the business, Scott would pay a dollar for dollar donation to the
Community Center for their programming department. Mr. Ziessman noted that he has just begun
this program with the Elk River Park and Recreation Department, however, it is not a nationwide
Fantastic Sam's promotion. Kitty Baltos expressed concern about favoring one business over
another. Harvey Kendall expressed to Mr. Ziessman that we would not be able to promise
exclusive privileges to Fantastic Sam's if another business requested to do a similar promotion.
Sandra Theros questioned who's responsibility it would be to copy or print the coupons. Mr
Ziessman noted that the City would most likely be able to produce the coupons on a copier for
significantly cheaper than he can have them printed and said that he would gladly reimburse the
cost back to the City. MOTION by Bruce Thielen to run the program for six (6) months to enable
the Community Center to determine if there might be any problems or community concerns about
this practice and that Fantastic Sam's would not be promised exclusivity for this program,
SECOND by Richard Quick, MOTION PASSED.
3. Consideration of adding items to the agenda. Kitty Baltos added the February 2004 meeting
minutes for approval. She inadvertently left them off the agenda.
4. Presentation from Jeff O'Neill on the proposed movement of the Old Methodist Church to the
west end of the Community Center parking lot. Mr. O'Neill provided a brief history of the
Methodist Church;
a. it's been of the chopping block for a number of years
b. it is currently owned by Sunny Fresh Foods who is hoping to have it moved
C. it was built in 1957 and is on the National Registry, it will be torn down and lost if not
moved,
d. The Monticello Arts Board investigated the possibility of moving it and using it but
abandoned the idea due to funding shortages,
e. The Swan River Montessori School stepped forward with a proposal to have the building
moved and use the main portion of the church as an assembly area and build classrooms
around the church.
f. Mr. O'Neill felt that the proposal fit with the City's comprehensive plan, would be
available for rentals for the Community Center evenings and weekends with the revenue
going to MCC.
g. Bruce Thielen said that their were concerns expressed about the City providing land to a
public school. If the school did not succeed, would the City still own the land. Mr.
O'Neill stated that this is one of the issue that is still being worked on.
The mechanics of the move would be Sunny Fresh providing $200,000 for the move and to include
closing up the remaining building, however, the City feels that this should be responsibility of
Sunny Fresh. The City will move the building, Swan River will obtain Charter status from the
state which will in turn make monies available to the school for repayment to the City for
expenses.
There is a concern about asbestos in the building. The State Health Department provides that the
building can be move without asbestos clean up as long as the asbestos is not disturbed. Fred
Patch, City's Chief Building Official, is hiring a structural engineer to our ability to move the
building. Dick Quick gave information on the asbestos in the walls as a past church member and
volunteer.
A concern expressed is that the City is supporting a school that could possibly take students away
from the public schools. Has the School District been talked to? It is believed that the school will
lose no more than 20% of it's students to this new school and that the Charter school will draw
from a larger area and possibly bring families to the Monticello area. The school would be
students through sixth grade and house approximately 120 students.
Other thoughts and concerns expressed by the Board:
Dick Quick - Who would locally approve the Charter School and who would supervise their
Charter? A structural engineer stated 20 years ago that the building would need to be destroyed in
20 years. Their were concerns about paint adhering to the siding due to the insulation.
Harvey Kendall - Did Swan River look at other possible sites? Bruce Thielen informed that their
costs would rise significantly if the building has to be moved farther. Questioned who would be
responsible for the set up and clean up in the school if MCC uses? Would they have janitors and
maintenance. Would MCC need to reimburse for heat and electricity? Harvey expressed concern
about the appearance of the City doing more for another school especially during difficult budget
times for the public school. Did Swan River look into renting Eastview?
Jeff O'Neill said that he hopes that Swan River will have enough space to install an outdoor play
area that could be used by the general public, however, Bruce Thielen expressed concern about an
unsupervised attraction. He felt that there could be concerns about who the users of this park
might be after school hours.
The move is planned for June 1, 2004. No action is required from the Advisory Board at this time.
This was informational only.
5. Update Items:
a. Wheel Park opening and planned competition: The wheel Parks opened two nice weekends
in April and will open after school and weekends in May. Kitty reported that she added a
piece of equipment, a pyramid, to the skate park this year with the money not used for the
ATM machine. This was a suggestion from the park users. MCC is sponsoring a board
team with Nendsa Bike Shop this year. They will do demos for us and for other
communities wearing MCC t-shirts. Kitty gave free season passes to our three board team
members. MCC is planning to do a competition in the Parks on Saturday of RiverFest
weekend. This will be a judged event run by The Third Lair. The RiverFest committee has
been notified and approves of this addition.
b. Seim Lessons and pool closures for the summer: MCC for the past two summers has closed
the pool during summer swim lessons to be able to offer the maximum number of lessons
and will be doing so again this year. They are planning to do a direct mail newsletter
informing members and posting notices prominently to reduce any confusion.
C. Financial and membership update: Kitty Baltos provided revenue and expenses through
February 2004 and membership information through March 2004 as information for the
Board.
d. Mississippi Room Patio Fence: Kitty reported that footings will be dug any day and the
fence should be done by the end of May.
6. Consideration of approving the minutes from the January 22, 2004 even though there was not a
quorum from that meeting at the current meeting. MOTION by Sandra Theros to approve the
minutes as presented, SECOND by Harvey Kendall, ABSTAINING Richard Quick and Bruce
Thielen as they were not present at the meeting and Tom Neumann is no longer on the Advisory
Board. MOTION PASSED with a two person quorum.
7. Consideration of approving the minutes from the February 26,2004 regular meeting. MOTION by
Richard Quick to approve, SECOND by Sandra Theros, MOTION PASSED.
8. Consideration of accepting Bob Grabinski as a Board member to replace the position vacated by
Tom Neumann. This term would expire on December 31, 2004. MOTION by Harvey Kendall to
approve Bob Grabinski as a Board member, SECOND by Richard Quick, MOTION PASSED.
9. Consideration of making the Community Center a smoke or tobacco free facility, exempting the
Mississippi Room patio, based on recommendations made by TATU (Teens Against Tobacco Use)
at the Parks Commission on April 22, 2004. Bruce Thielen was at the Parks Commission meeting
and informed that Coon Rapids just made this change exempting their City owned golf course.
Harvey Kendall expressed concern that smoking might become a government issue and that the
rights of the smokers need to be considered. Richard Quick expressed that MCC is a family
facility and except for the weddings this would be a good fit for the facility. The Board asked that
Kitty Baltos follow up with other communities and with the Parks Commission and report back at
the next meeting.
10. Consideration of allowing the Community Center to use collection agencies for certain accounts
and defining a policy as to when this would be initiated. Kitty Baltos reported that this is not a
significant problem, however, after a number of calls with no response or broken promises from
the customer, her only recourse is to write the item off. The Board agreed without a motion that it
would be okay to use collections agencies if absolutely necessary.
11. MOTION by Richard Quick to adjourn the meeting at 6:00 p.m., SECOND by Sandra Theros,
MOTION PASSED meeting adjourned.