City Council Minutes 11-16-2011 SpecialMINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING — MONTICELLO CITY COUNCIL
Wednesday, November 16, 2011— 5 p.m.
Bridge Room, Monticello Community Center
Present: Clint Herbst, Lloyd Hilgart, Tom Perrault, Glen Posusta, Brian Stumpf
Absent: None
Others: Jeff O'Neill, Torn Kelly, Gary Evans (HBC), Barry Fick (Springsted)
1. Call to Order
Mayor Herbst called the meeting to order at 5 p.m. and welcomed all those present. He
stated that this will be an informational meeting but no public input will be taken.
2. Purpose of Meetine
City Administrator Jeff O'Neill stated the purpose:
a. Update and review current operations and today's financial pressures facing
FiberNet Monticello
b. Discuss approach for responding to current economic enviromnent to improve
financial status of FiberNet Monticello relating to debt and operations
3. Current Operations — Measurements of Success
Jeff O'Neill reviewed the goals of the project at its outset as measures for determining the
success of the project. He noted that the technology has been applied within budget as
designed and is operating successfully and in keeping with expectations established at the
outset. The service choice that has been established has resulted in a huge reduction in
cost combined with increases in speed and improved service. Monticello is the envy of
the nation when it comes to availability of fast and affordable internet. FiberNet
customer growth in single and two family settings is near 40% after just over one year of
service. In addition, the good retention rates demonstrate satisfaction with exceptional
customer service. Kudos to HBC and all City staff for their efforts.
Jeff O'Neill pointed out the response to the current Charter Communications promotion
has resulted in a very small loss of residential customers. City staff response was
immediate with direct conununication to customers. The positive response to FiberNet
shows high loyalty and customers like what they have.
Jeff O'Neill talked about the substantial impacts on the community since FiberNet has
started up. Having choices provided significant telecommunication cost savings due to
competition. Consumers saw a 30-40% drop in prices. Total savings is difficult to
ascertain but given the number of potential customers the total savings is huge. FiberNet
is experiencing good subscription rates, but does need to grow. Operations for just over
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one year show a little over 1700 customers including 91 businesses. There is still market
to go after and we do need to grow the numbers.
Jeff O'Neill also talked about goals yet to be attained. Revenues and expenses need to
balance as envisioned by the original plan. The original business plan, prepared in 2007,
needs to be revised to reflect the impact of the TDS lawsuit and current economic
conditions. Jeff went on to review factors that have affected the financial picture and
business plan.
a) Lawsuit against City — Jeff O'Neill noted that the lawsuit created a one year delay
in revenues and, during this time, the City could not spend any of the bond
money. Some of the bond dollars were eventually stranded after the court ruling
with the City unable to spend dollars toward start-up operations after July 1, 2011.
The City had liability for a large amount of egal expenses related to the lawsuit.
Glen Posusta pointed out that the City did expect a lawsuit but did not expect the
project to be shut down for a year.
b) General Economy — Jeff O'Neill pointed out that soon after the bond sale, there
was a downturn in the economy. Due to the downturn, the City has not
experienced the residential growth that was anticipated in the business plan. The
economy has also affected ability for discretionary spending. Another impact of
the economic downturn is low interest rates and, therefore, only minimal interest
earnings on the bond money, which did not match the anticipated earnings in the
business plan. He went on to note that the customer base appears solid in the face
of predatory pricing, and features stable and growing business customers, but it
needs to continue to grow.
c) Cash Flow — Jeff O'Neill commented that due to the hurdles placed in front of the
program by TDS and the economy in general, use of Liquor reserves are needed
in order to sustain payments for FiberNet operations until the system can cash
flow.
4. Approach - Response to Current Economic Environment
Barry Fick of Springsted Inc. and Gary Evans from HBC were invited to address several
areas including:
a. Debt service - summary of current situation and options available
b. Operations adjustments - explore opportunities for containing costs
C. Identification of emerging revenue sources - growing the system
Barry Fick spoke about the current system which was built and implemented within
budget. It is necessary to improve the operations and add customers to increase revenues.
We also want to identify areas where costs can be lowered. Barry Fick also commented
on the interest rate market at the time that the debt was issued compared to the current
market status where interest rates have declined. Barry Fick explained that Springsted
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advisors have met with the major bond holder (over 50% of issuance) and discussed
opportunities to negotiate the terms of the debt and possibly restructure the principal and
interest. The City has been current in its payments along with deposits according to the
bond documents. There is no default at this time and the City is in a good position to
negotiate with the bondholders.
The goal will be to positive cash flow, pay the debt, and show a fund balance in the
business. This will take a while to achieve as will the process of working with the
bondholders. They anticipate working with the bond holders over the next 3 to 6 months.
They would keep Council and the Advisory Board informed on a regular basis as to the
status of negotiations. Barry Fick recommends the option to establish a working group to
negotiate with the bondholders to reduce the debt payments and establish a revised
business plan for FiberNet operations.
Lloyd Hilgart asked if they were to go to the bond market today what could be expected
for interest rates. Barry Fick feels that currently, bonds of this type would sell at 5 %.
Hhe noted that revenue bonds would not be sold at the low interest rates of a general
obligation bond. However, interest rates are at historic lows.
Glen Posusta asked about the timeline anticipated for restructuring the bonds. Barry Fick
believes that could be achieved in the next 6 months. Glen Posusta asked who would be
involved in the discussions and how Council would be involved. Barry explained that
Springsted, HBC and City staff would be involved in the negotiations. Any decisions
would come back to Council. Jeff O'Neill asked if it would be possible to include a
council member or two. Barry Fick felt that would be helpful because they could provide
feedback immediately.
Glen Posusta understood that part of previous discussions looked at having HBC take
over the operations completely rather than oversee the business as a management
company. Barry Fick said that would be one of the options that would be laid on the
table. HBC would be amenable to taking on that role if needed.
Gary Evans of HBC spoke on behalf of their role as managers of the FiberNet system.
He is extremely pleased with the quick start for FiberNet and noted that most
telecommunications companies take about six years to reach the point that FiberNet is at
in terms of operations. Gary Evans mentioned several other municipalities that they are
working with to provide assistance in stabilizing their business operations. FNM is in
much better shape than either of those two and has performed well against the original
business plan, which is now outdated. From HBC's perspective, there is no question that
this project can be successful. However, it will take a significant amount of work to get
FNM to be a successful business in its own right.
Gary Evans noted that phone service for residential customers has changed dramatically
with many customers choosing cell phones over landlines. In the time that FNM project
has been operating, HBC has seen a huge increase in television content costs, which has
been a hindrance to the operations. In regard to the current marketing efforts by Charter
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Communications in the Monticello market, Gary Evans noted that he informed City staff
that Charter Communications ran a similar promo against HBC in Winona. HBC was
planning to slash rates to compete with Charter, but they were advised to hold off and
maintain their stance, which worked out and they lost very few customers. He
encouraged the City to take the same stance against Charter. FNM has realized little
impact on their customer counts and this demonstrates the strength of the system. In
addition to FNM successfully growing customers and looking at other revenue
opportunities, this makes HBC optimistic that FNM can be a successful system. There
are a lot of opportunities to market the high bandwidth that FNM has available, which the
competition cannot. Gary Evans feels there are some ways to cut costs and believes
revenues can be increased by marketing thrusts.
Lloyd Hilgart asked about the average dollar amount per customer that FNM realizes;
Gary Evans noted that it is about $80. This is about $20 lower than what the original
business plan called for. This reduction can be attributed to a great degree to the
abandonment of land lines by many consumers. Lloyd Hilgart asked if the rates for
various services are lower than originally anticipated. Gary Evans explained that they are
somewhat lower than forecast but that is mainly due to economic pressures and not
specifically a change to the business plan.
Clint Herbst commented that the business plan showed declining phone use but the slide
was more dramatic than originally forecast. Gary Evans noted that customers are taking
lower level video packages and that might be partially related to higher video content
costs.
Glen Posusta asked about lowering of the HBC management contract prices. Gary Evans
declined to talk about potential prices at this time as they have a lot of negotiating to do
with various vendors plus the bondholders. Clint Herbst asked about the timeline for
moving forward. Gary Evans commented that HBC is prepared to immediately invest as
much time as needed to get the negotiations underway and complete them as quickly as
possible.
Clint Herbst noted that restructuring of this type is common among businesses. The
difference here is that it must be done publicly which may make it appear to be a bigger
problem. Clint Herbst mentioned that the meeting held last Friday with City staff, HBC
and financial advisors was a positive meeting and headed in the right direction.
Lloyd Hilgart asked Gary Evans how many communities that are served by HBC have
three providers for telecommunications. Gary Evans replied that all of their communities
have at least three providers. For example, Winona has 3 and one -half providers of
phone, data and video products.
5. Summary
Jeff O'Neill summarized one of the next steps is to develop an updated business plan that
incorporates the current economic environment. The plan should include specific options
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for reducing debt, lowering operations cost, and providing detail on opportunities for
increasing revenue.
City Council directed staff to bring back to Council a tentative timeline and
recommendations for committee make -up and responsibilities.
6. Adiournment
LLOYD HILGART MOVED TO ADJOURN THE SPECIAL MEETING AT 5:38 P.M.
TOM PERRAULT SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED 5 -0.
Recorder: Catherine M. Shuman Gjrt>?r
Approved:
Attest:
C1t dministrator
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