City Council Minutes 03-26-2012 SpecialMINUTES
SPECIAL WORKSHOP /MEETING — MONTICELLO CITY COUNCIL
Monday, March 26, 2012 — 6:15 p.m.
Mississippi Room, Monticello Community Center
Present: Clint Herbst, Lloyd Hilgart, Tom Perrault, Glen Posusta, Brian Stumpf
Absent: None
Others: Tom Kelly, Jeff O'Neill, Randall Johnsen, Bob Paschke
1. Call to Order
Mayor Herbst called the Special Meeting to order at 6:15 p.m.
2. Purpose of Workshop: Discussion of possible 2" d liquor store location
Tom Kelly explained that staff had been asked to look into the possibility of establishing
a second liquor store location. After checking out a few sites, staff requested a workshop
with Council to discuss some options and get direction on moving forward.
3. Consideration of a second liquor store location
Tom Kelly explained that he and Randall Johnsen have been looking into possible
options for a second liquor store location. Brian Stumpf questioned why the City would
want to purchase this store and turn it into a liquor store.
Clint Herbst feels that the City should consider expanding in order to increase liquor sales
at another location. Since the City is already in the liquor business and surrounded by
other cities that have municipal liquor stores, this would not be taking business away
from anyone else. He noted there is a concern that this site is too small, but he didn't
think the City could justify spending more than $.5 million on a satellite location.
Glen Posusta asked about cost to add more coolers and other things that would be needed
to turn the building into a second liquor store. Randall Johnsen described the layout of
Cruiser's convenience store and noted that the current layout is not conducive for a liquor
store. Tom Kelly noted some changes that could be made to accommodate a second
liquor store. Discussion concerned various options that might be possible for the store
including coolers, shelving and cash register counter.
Clint Herbst feels that this is a minimal investment for a second liquor store site. The
cost is reasonable at $550,000 for a 4000 sq foot property plus a large parking area. He
compared it to some of the surrounding land and what they are asking for those
properties. He sees this as a quick way to get a second store in place before the summer
traffic. Randall Johnsen commented that, although the space is limited, you would want
to feature selected products and possibly sale items. Randall expressed concern about
having large enough quantities on hand for such events as the wine tasting sale with the
possibility of not having items which customers would want and thus turning them away.
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It would not be possible to carry the variety of inventory with the limited space compared
to the 8800 sq foot layout at the current Hi Way Liquors.
Clint Herbst spoke in favor of the Cruiser's location noting that there is space to expand
and the ease of getting in and out. Clint Herbst also noted that a previous study that was
done some years ago indicated that this area would be a good site for a second liquor
store. Brian Stumpf commented that a liquor store at this end of town could possibly
pick up customers who do not realize what exists at that end of town. Glen Posusta
expressed concern about purchasing and opening a second store and not realizing enough
income to make it profitable. Glen Posusta noted he might be willing to do this on a trial
basis to see if it is profitable before they put too much money into it.
Glen Posusta asked about staffing and management. Randall Johnsen said it would
probably be managed between him and other staff. They would not need as many
employees as at the current store; however, they might want to use some of the more
experienced staff to start with. Eventually they would probably need a rotating staff of
about five or six people.
Clint Herbst said he thought it would be best to take everything out except the coolers
and start remodeling from there. Randall Johnsen mentioned some of the other
considerations would be delivery, stocking, and traffic flow. Tom Kelly estimated that it
might be close to $300,000 to get the building ready. Brian Stumpf mentioned some
concerns: security, lighting, signage, removing old gas tanks. Tom Perrault expressed
concern about limited space, cost that might be incurred to remove tanks, drawing
customers away from existing store, and possible expansion costs. Tom Kelly mentioned
that there are some storage sheds in the back that would have to be removed. Pictures of
the building site were passed around. Tom Kelly noted that it might be possible to do
some remodeling at the back of the building to accommodate delivery trucks. There is no
storage space to speak of inside so all deliveries would basically go out on the floor.
Lloyd Hilgart said that he would want to see some more numbers before the City would
move forward on this. He asked where the start tip funds would come from; Tom Kelly
noted that would come from the Liquor Fund. Lloyd Hilgart said he would like those
funds paid back after the initial investment. He also would like some figures on
operating costs. Clint Herbst stated that he thinks the previous study that was done would
probably look better now with the new interchange and added businesses in the area.
Randall Johnsen pointed out that it will take some work to figure out the best layout and
stocking for the space.
Tom Kelly pointed out that the total value for the 2 lots is $611,000. Glen Posusta said
he talked to Dean Hoglund and the sellers would take care of removing the tanks. Bob
Paschke asked how long the tanks have been there. He suggested that they City might
want to take a look at any possible leaks where there might be soil clean up issues. Glen
Posusta said the City should include that consideration if an offer were to be made. It
was also suggested that the sellers be responsible for removing the canopy structure and
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the City could possibly take care of the paving after they check the soil for
contamination.
Jeff O'Neill asked if Council could think of any other site in that area that might be worth
looking at. Clint Herbst reiterated that he thinks the Cruiser's site is the best deal for
now. Tom Kelly pointed out that there are a few other lots that might be better for
building, but it would take awhile to get a liquor store constructed. Dean Hoglund
thought they could close and move the current tenants within 90 days, which would make
it available around June.
Lloyd Hilgart asked Randall Johnsen about the current business that Hi Way Liquors
does. Randall Johnsen said they do about $4.75 million and realize a profit of about
$600,000. Several council members commented that a liquor store at Cruiser's would
probably draw different customers than the traffic that goes by Hi Way Liquors.
Lloyd Hilgart stated that he is not opposed to considering a second store but he is
concerned about the amount of business that would be drawn from the current store and
the loss of discretionary funds for other uses. Tom Kelly pointed out the current status of
the Liquor Fund and the option of issuing a revenue bond to fund the purchase and
renovation of a new store.
Clint Herbst asked if Council wanted to have staff continue to investigate this as a
possible future endeavor.
BRIAN STUMPF MOVED TO DIRECT STAFF TO CONTINUE INVESTIGATING
THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING A SECOND LIQUOR STORE AND MAKE
AN OFFER ON THE CRUISER'S PROPERTY CONTINGENT ON REMOVING THE
GAS TANKS. CLINT HERBST SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED 4-
1 WITH TOM PERRAULT VOTING IN OPPOSITION.
Tom Kelly said he will work on putting together more numbers on purchasing,
renovations, and operations.
4. Adjournment
TOM PERRAULT MOVED TO ADJOURN THE SPECIAL MEETING AT 6:51 P.M.
GLEN POSUSTA SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED 5 -0.
Recorder: Catherine M. Shuman Awl
Approved: April 9, 2012
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