Parks Commission Agenda Packet 10-15-1998
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AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING - PARKS COMMISSION
Thursday, October 15, 1998 - 4:30 p.m.
Members:
Larry Nolan, Fran Fair, Earl Smith, Rick Traver, Jennifer Fearing
1. Call meeting to order.
2. Consideration of approving the minutes for the September 17, 1998 meeting.
3. Consideration of adding items to the agenda.
4. Citizens requests.
5. Report from Brad Johnson/Lotus Realty Services regarding development in Bridge Park.
6. Planning items - Jeff O'Neill
A. Rolling Woods
7. Park Maintenance items - Gregg Engle
8.
Discussion on City Council decision for playground equipment at Ellision Park.
9.
Review of River Mill neighborhood park meeting.
10. Discussion on budget cuts.
A. Review of updated 5 year plan
11. Updates
A. Park land purchased by the water tower
12. Adjourn.
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REGULAR MEETING - PARKS COMMISSION
Thursday, September 17, 1998 - 4:30 p.m.
Members:
Larry Nolan, Fran Fair, Earl Smith, Rick Traver, Jennifer Fearing
1. Call meeting to order.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Larry Nolan.
2. Consideration of approving the minutes for the August 20. 1998 meeting.
EARL SMITH MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE
AUGUST 20, 1998 MEETING. SECONDED BY JENNIFER FEARING. Motion
passed unanimously.
3. Consideration of adding items to the agenda.
There were no items added to the agenda.
4.
Citizens request.
Two members of the Hockey Association, JeffFrancisNice President and Tom Bitzer/4th
Street Coordinator reported to the commission that Greg Engle, Park Superintendent and
his crew had done an excellent job of cleaning up the 4th Street warming house building.
The inside and outside had been painted and larger shelving was added. Mr. Bitzer gave
a history of the progress made in the last year working with the city and sharing
responsibilities of the rink maintenance.
Each year, in the fall, the agreement between the City and the Hockey Association is
reviewed and updated thus keeping everyone aware of what is expected of each group.
Greg Engle had not seen the contract and wanted to read it before suggesting any
changes.
Mr. Engle will meet with the Hockey Association and update the agreement for the 98-99
hockey season.
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5.
Discussion on soccer fields at 7th Street - Report
Steve Grittman, City Planner, discussed the following possible sites for a soccer complex.
I. NSP City Fields - IfNSP agrees, there could be fields added to the complex. If
NSP does agree, the Commissioners discussed whether the fields should be only
for baseball/softball or mixed with soccer.
2. West River Street - There is acreage along West River Street that is privately
owned that could be purchased for a soccer complex.
3. Montissippi Park - This is a county park with ample room to add soccer fields.
The park has been more of a passive park in the past and the addition of soccer
fields would need county approval. The Parks Commission agreed it would be
worth discussion with the County on a partnership to add fields. The City would
maintain the fields.
4.
7th Street - The City currently owns this property and the Commission liked the
idea of the view from the freeway and that the land was already owned by the
City. There have been developers interested in this property for commercial use.
The question is whether it would be better for the City to sell the property for
commercial use and purchase park land in another location or add soccer fields in
this area.
5.
Minnesota St. - There is property for sale in this area. It is adjacent to Ruffs
Auto Repair so it is not ideal for residential housing.
6.
Freeway Fields - There is already a soccer field in this location. It was discussed
to purchase additional land to the west of the existing park for soccer fields. This
land is for sale at this time.
7.
River Mill Park - Construction will start in the spring of 1999 on the River Mill
Park. There would be room for one full sized field in this location.
8.
Future Regional Park - The southwest area is an area in the comprehensive plan
marked for a regional park. A soccer complex like NSP City Fields has baseball
fields.
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Church land - There is a church on Hwy. 25, across from Kjellberg's that might
be interested in letting a portion of their property to be used as a temporary field.
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The Commissioners discussed all of the sites and seemed to agree that either Montissippi
or the 7th Street area would work the best. Jeff O'Neill, as a member of the soccer
association, stated that there are over 600 kids playing soccer this fall and within the next
two years there will not be enough fields to accommodate the program. The
Commissioners discussed the issue and agreed the City will need to plan for the increase
in the near future. Jeff O'Neill will call and talk to the Wright County Park Supervision
to discuss the possibility of soccer fields at the Montissippi Park.
6. Planning items
I. Discussion on Bridge Park changes.
Steve Grittman, City Planner, discussed the purchasing ofthe Carlson property
along the river. The HRA requested the Parks Commission's opinion regarding
purchasing this property. The Parks Commission agreed that the purchasing of
river property for public use has been a priority.
EARL SMITH MADE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO THE HRA AND
CITY COUNCIL TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING BLOCK
64. THE PARKS COMMISSION IS INTERESTED BUT DOES NOT HAVE
THE FUNDS A V AILABLE THROUGH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS AT
THIS TIME. SECONDED BY RICK TRAVER. Motion passed unanimously.
7.
Park Maintenance items - Gregg Engle.
Gregg Engle, Park Superintendent, reported on maintenance items that had been priority.
Mr. Engle reviewed the plan developed by Jean Emmonds, intern with the DNR. He
stated that Jean Emmonds had completed her plan for an interpretive area in the Prairie
West Addition and wanted the Commissioners opinion on the plan. The interpretive area
would be a 20 to 25 foot circle with sections of native grasses and flowers identified. It
was discussed that it was important to keep the park a groomed area but the interpretive
center would be a good way to identify the native plants and then continue the
identification with signs along the pathway from Jerry Liefert to West River Road.
JENNIFER FEARING MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE INTERPRETIVE
CENTER PLAN COMPLETED BY JEAN EMMONDS. SECONDED BY EARL
SMITH. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Engle explained procedures for a more efficient process regarding grass cutting, tree
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trimming, and weed control in the next season. There have been measures taken at
Bridge Park to help with vandalism and safety. One of the measures taken was to install
a video camera under the bridge to record any action. He reported on each park where
maintenance had been completed.
It was suggested to promote the watering of the trees planted in spring of the year by
placing an ad in the Times..
8. Discussion on budget cuts.
Gregg Engle, Park Superintendent, suggested the following budget cuts. He deferred the
following items to the 1999 budget: $10,000 for bleachers and goals and $3,000 for
landscape rake and leveler bar for skid loader. Mr. Engle reduced the $50,000 to $25,000
for ADA improvements, $7,000 to $5,000 for Prairie Creek Park improvements, $7,500
to 2,000 for surveys of existing parks, $10,000 to $4,000 for park signs, and $80,000 to
65,000 for River Mill Park.
The Commissioners requested the five year park plan be revised to show a more realistic
total. They requested a line item for future park development as it is unknown how many
subdivisions will be added to the City in the next five years. This will be provided at the
next meeting.
9.
Discussion on format for River Mill Park meeting.
The format for the neighborhood meeting for the River Mill subdivision was discussed.
Gregg Engle, Park Superintendent, explained that he will be opening the meeting by
showing his sketch for the park. He will emphasize that this is only a concept and the
neighborhood can add or remove items according to their ideas. The meeting is
scheduled for Tuesday, September 22, 1998 at 7 p.m. in the Council Chamber.
10. Adiourn.
EARL SMITH MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. SECONDED BY
RICK TRA VER. Motion passed unanimously.
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Review of proposals for the delivery and installation of a new playground unit for Ellison
Park and award of contract.
City Administrator Rick W olfsteller reported that he was concerned about the
recommendation from the Parks Commission to purchase playground equipment from a
company that did not submit the lowest bid. Since there was a question as to whether the
specifications were adequate to allow making a determination that the lowest bid didn't
meet the specifications, the City Administrator requested that the City Attorney give his
opmlOn.
Park Superintendent Greg Engle explained that the criteria used for selection of the
playground unit was that the structure must coordinate with the park theme of water or
river as well as the existing park's surrounding environment. Four proposals were
received on September 22 for delivery and installation of a new playground unit for
Ellison Park. Although Bob Klein & Associates submitted the lowest proposal at
$30,031.15, the Parks Commission and Park Superintendent recommended contracting
with Minnesota Wisconsin Playground, Inc., whose bid amount was $35,000 for Game
Time equipment. This unit was preferred for its unique ship design, appearance, and
proven method of installation of the fiber system with drainage barriers. The design
from the low bidder was not favored due to a high tower that would take away from the
appearance of the nearby log shelter, it didn't appear to have the creativity for the
younger age group of2~5 years, and the proposal didn't include a clear description of the
installation of the play surface.
City Attorney Dennis Dalen stated that the two issues that needed to be determined were
bid responsive to the specifications and responsible bidder. If the materials bid varied
from the specifications, the bid can be rejected. If not, the Council can either accept the
low bid or reject all bids, amend the specifications, and rebid the project. Since it was
difficult to determine that there was a material variance, the City Attorney recommended
that the Council reject the bids and rewrite the specifications. However, the Park
Superintendent noted that he preferred to complete the project within the 1998 budget.
AFTER DISCUSSION, A MOTION WAS MADE BY CLINT HERBST AND SECONDED BY
BRIAN STUMPF TO ACCEPT THE BIDS AND A WARD THE CONTRACT TO THE LOW
BIDDER, BOB KLEIN & ASSOCIATES, IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,031.15. Motion carried
unanimously.
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RIVER MILL PARK
NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING
September 22, 1998 - 7 p.m.
A meeting was held with the residents of the River Mill Subdivision on September 22, 1998 at
7 p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers. The meeting was well attended by the area residents.
Gregg Engle, Park Superintendent, began the meeting by explaining the type of park that was
targeted, in the Comprehensive Plan, for River Mill. It is intended to be a neighborhood park
which is defined as an area designated for active and passive recreation, one-half to one mile
radius to serve a population of up to 5,000, with focus on ages 5 through 39 and with emphasis
on ages 5 thorough 18, and a desirable size of approximately two to five acres.
The meeting was held as an open forum with questions encouraged throughout the presentation.
The main objective of the meeting was to discuss and note the ideas of the group. Mr. Engle
started the meeting by showing a sketch he had made of a plan for the park. The plan included a
soccer field, sliding hill, two small playgrounds, picnic shelter with picnic tables and a minimum
amount of landscaping.
The residents disagreed that a soccer field was the best use of the park. Instead of a soccer field,
the residents requested the following; walking trails, a full size basketball court with two
baskets, sand volleyball, and a skating rink. The skating rink would not have an enclosed shelter.
Also many residents requested a pathway through the park, it was felt that it is important to have
a safe place to walk and ride bike.
Gregg Engle asked whether two small playgrounds, one targeted for ages two to eight and the
other five to twelve, was a concept they would prefer or whether one large play structure would
be a better idea. The neighborhood preferred the idea of two playgrounds each with a different
age group targeted. Mr. Engle also brought catalogs and brochures that residents could look at
and get ideas.
Numerous comments and discussions were made on the parking lot area with some residents
feeling the parking lot was not necessary. Mr. Engle explained some type of parking lot would
be needed to accommodate off street parking especially if there was a sliding and skating area.
Residents in River Mill might also want to drive to the park.
A request was made to plant as many trees as possible in the area by the picnic shelters and
playground. Mr. Engle agreed this was a nice idea but added landscaping requires more
maintenance than the City crews can keep up with. However, if the neighborhood was interested
in contributing their time to planting and watering this might be a workable partnership.
An important safety issue is adequate lighting in the park and especially on the sliding hill. The
lighting would help with the safety of the children sliding and snowmobiles that travel though
this area.
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Gregg Engle will add irrigation to the list of items in the first phase. The restroom facilities
would be portable satellites as residents agreed there would not be a need for a permanent
structure for restrooms at this time. There were other ideas mentioned that could be added over
time such as: bird houses, frisbee golf, firepits, flower gardens and signage.
It was agreed by, City staff and the residents of River Mill, that Mr.Engles will work with the
Parks Commission and develop a plan and a budget to phase-in the park improvements over the
next few years, Wanda Kraemer will mail the phased plan and the notes from the meeting to the
residents. Residents of River Mill will contact Wanda Kraemer if they are interested in working
with landscaping and/or gardening at the park.
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Capitallmrovement Items - Monticello trail and park system
Updated for Parks Comm ission Septem ber 25, 1998 - 1999 budge! not modified, Funding Sources
PARK/GENERAL 'ACTIVITY COMMENTS IVr I Cost ISTEA !street Pathway Park Budget
! Const 99-2003 !Budast Mai nt fu nd 1997 : 1998 ; 1999 2000 20011 2002 2003
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Adopt A Park Seed Money for Communrty PaI1c Continue per vision statem ent all $25,000 $5,000 $5,000 $5,000 $5,000 $5,000 : $5,000
Comm un itv Ce lebrations Mise Funds lor Community GatherincslcelbiOnoolno 'all $25 000 $5 000 $5 000 $5 000 $5 000 ! $5 000 , $5 000
Maintenance I mprDlled Weed - Contract sprayi ng 'Onoolno iall $25,000 $5,000 $5,000 $5,000 $5,000 $5,000 i $5,000 , $5,000
Park Land Awuisrtion Fund Purchase oortion Ern merich Scul:h 20Acres '8u ild war chest 'all $150000 $30 000 $30 000 $30 000 : $30 000 $30 000
Play structu re mai nt. Safely a nd ADA improvements to existing 1998 - EI ison - future undetermined all $175,000 $1 0,000 $40,000 $15,000 $40,000 $40,000 ; $40,000 $40,000
,Meadow Oak Park Basketball Court ne ar olav structures Complete in 1998 1997 $0 $2000 ,
,Freeway Fields storage/Concession build i ng Complete in 1998. Dress-up 1997 $0 512,000
Prairie Creek Park General developm ent exoenses Budee! more lor 1999 1998 $13 000 $3 500 $5 000 $2 000 $2 000 : $2,000 $2 000
'Cardinal Hills Tot Lot Pia vstructu re/grading landscaping Move Fallon Avenue Park Equipment 1998 $0 $20,000
Meadow Oak Outlot A Parkino lot Complete in 1998 1998 $15,000 $13,000 $13,000 $3,000 $3,000 $3,000 $3,000 $3,000
Klein Farms Pa rk Pioneer Park Construct in 1998 - 99 1998 $53,000 $12,000 $40,000 $23,000 $10,000 $10,000 $10 000
NSP Ball field Lie ht two field at exi sti ng park Ug ht fleids 1998 $100,000 , $40,000 $20,000 $20,000 $20,000 $20,000 520,000
Park Swveys - Srte Plans ; Estabjlsh site plans lor existing )larks Three parks to be determ ined 1999 $17,000 $5,000 $3,000 $3,000 $3,000 :ti3,000 ,
General Equ i pment : Fi~d equipment etc Bleachers (3) 1999 $40,000 510,000 $10,000 $10,000 510,000 ;
Sions Good looki ng park mon u ment signs Location to be determil1led 1999 $30,000 $8,000 $8,000 $8,000 $8,000 $8,000 "
River Mill Park Playg roo nd/Ball Fiel ds and parkirlo Construct in 1999 . resident in put in 98. 1999 $114,000 $85,000 $40,000 $3,000 $3,000 $3,000 I
Scccer Fred Development Field development 1999 :ti150,000 : $30,000 $30,000 ] $30,000 $30,000 $30,000
! R iver/Briclae Parks River Park Enhancements - MCP Implmnt iPendin 0 - perhapS refocus on East 1999 $100,000 $80,000 $20,000 $20,000 . $20,000 $20,000 $20,000
New Parks - New subdivision Undetermined - bas ad on deveJopment .Use Gen fu nds and boosted park fund 2000 $70,000 $67,000
New Parks - New subdivision Undetermined - bas ed on development Use Gen fund sand boosted park fund 2001 $104,000
I New Parks - New subd ivision Undetermined - based on development Use Gen fun ds and boasled arlc: fund ; 2002 , $104,000 ,
New Parks - New su bd ivision Undetermined - based on devela pm ent Use Gen funds and boasled park fund 2003 , i , $114,000
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Total i I I $01 $01 $0 I $54,000 1$231,500 1:ti23f,000 1~296,UW :ti296,OOO, $296,000 i :ti296,OOO
$1,102,000
Pathway I River Walk - Connect Ellison to Miss Dr 'move to street budget iike other crties 1997 $75,000 1$15,000 $30,000 1 $15,000 $15,000
!Pathway Riverwalk - Wastewater treatmalt plant Construction In 1998 1998 $40,000 1$40,000 1 $40,000 ,
Pathwav 'Meadow Oaks to the Middle School move to street b udoet like other crties 1999 $30 000 $20 000 $10 000 ' !
Pathway River Road Plaza to Middle School move to street budget like other crties ; 1999 $60,000 $35,000 ,$10,000 $15,000 i .
Pathwav - General General pathwav development Pathwavs not fu nded bv develooers IAII , 1 $30 000 $30 000 $30 000 $30 000 I
ICSAH 75 UNDERP,~SS - MIDDLE SCHOO move to stfe;1t budget like other cities 1 1999 $80,000 , 1 I $80,000 1 I
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THIS WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON A 3-2 VOTE.
13. Consideration of purchase of 4 acres on the Monte Club Hill near the water tower
for park purposes. (1.S.)
A. REFERENCE AND BACKGROUND:
At the September 14 Council meeting, after discussion about the possible purchase of 4
acres from Kenny Schultz on the Monte Club Hill near our water tower for park land,
staff was directed to contact Mr. Schultz in an attempt to negotiate a purchase price some
place between $12,000 per acre for which the Methodist Church property was purchased,
to $20,000 per acre for which Mr. Schultz indicated is his asking price. After discussions
with Mr. Schultz, he indicated the minimum purchase price for this property would be
$16,500 per acre for a total of $66,000 for the 4 acres, with the payments to Mr. Schultz
spread out over a mutually agreed period of time. The purchase would be funded from
park dedication funds from The Forest & Wildwood Ridge, with the balance coming
from reserves until such time they are replaced with park dedication funds.
B. AL TERN A TrVE ACTIONS:
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The first alternative would be to purchase the property from Mr. Schultz for the
negotiated asking price of $..,....
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The second alternative would be to counter Mr. Schultz' asking price with a lower
offer.
3. The third alternative would be not to purchase the property at this time.
C. STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
It is the recommendation of the Public Works Director and City Administrator that the
City Council approve the purchase of the 4 acres from Kenny Schultz to be used as park
land at a purchase price of $66,000 as outlined in alternative #1. It should also be noted
that the Parks Commission has unanimously voted in favor of this purchase.
D. SUPPORTING DATA:
Please refer to the supporting data provided at the September 14 Council meeting.
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13. Consideration of purchase of 4 acres on the Monte Club Hill near the water tower for
park pur:poses.
Public Works Director John Simola reported that at the September 14 Council meeting,
staff was directed to negotiate the possible purchase of 4 acres from Kenny Schultz on the
Monte Club hill near the City's water tower for park land. This property would create a
centralized park for the area, and the Parks Commission recommended unanimously that
the City purchase the property. Mr. Schultz indicated the minimum purchase price for the
property would be $16,500 per acre for a total of $66,000 for the 4 acres, with payments
spread out over a mutually-agreed period of time. The purchase would be funded from
park dedication funds from River Forest and Wildwood Ridge, with the balance coming
from reserves until such time they are replaced with future dedication funds.
Councilmember Clint Herbst stated that he felt this property was better suited for
development of houses and that there was already an enormous amount of park land in
the city. Councilmember Bruce Thielen responded that the City may never have the
opportunity to obtain this type of land again and that it should be preserved for future
generations. In addition, a major portion ofthe cost could be funded immediately
through park dedication fees obtained from recent developments. Councilmember
Carlson added that when researched in the past, Monticello's amount of park land was
not excessive and was comparable to the national standards.
AFTER DISCUSSION, A MOTION WAS MADE BY BRUCE THIELEN AND SECONDED
BY BILL FAIR TO PURCHASE 4 ACRES FROM MR. SCHULTZ FOR $66,000 USING
PARK DEDICATION FUNDS AND RESERVE FUNDS UNTIL REPLACED WITH FUTURE
PARK DEDICATION FEES. Voting in favor: Bruce Thielen, Bill Fair, Roger Carlson.
Opposed: Clint Herbst, Brian Stumpf. Motion carried.
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