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BCOL Advisory Council Minutes 04-06-2012MINUTES BERTRAM CHAIN OF LAKES REGIONAL PARK ADVISORY COUNCIL Friday, April h, 2012 8:00 a.m. Bridge Room, Monticello Community Center Advisory Council Members Present: Martyn Dibben, Jim Lindberg, Lyle Trunnel, Pat Sawatzke, Glen Posusta, Rose Thelen, Gene Emanuel, Pete Stupar, Wes Olson, Tom Jahnke, Jim Hayes Advisory Council Members Absent: Clint Herbst, Sandra Theros Staff Present: Jeff O'Neill, Angela Schumann, Kitty Baltos, Stacy Marquardt, Tom Pawelk, Graham Sones —SGA, Bob Gunderson -SGA Staff Absent: Marc Mattice Martyn Dibben called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m. The Board welcomed Tom Jahnke and Jim Hayes to the Advisory Board. Staff had provided background information for the new members. 1) Approval of the March 2, 2012 Meeting Minutes ROSE THELEN MOVED TO APPROVE THE MARCH 2, 2012 MEETING ME 4=S. MOTION WAS SECONDED BY PETE STUPAR. MOTION CARRIED 10 -0. 2) Consideration of adding to and approving agenda a) Recap of Mountain Bike Club and Boy Scouts b) MYSA Update 3) Presentation and review of the draft Y camp concept plan and revised park concept (Graham) (20 Minutes) Graham Sones provided a brief overview of the revised concept plan based on changes which resulted from the relocation of the YMCA daycamp. He noted that some discrepancies in scale had been resolved. The YMCA had asked that the new camp support 100 more campers than previously requested increasing the total number of campers to 300. He reported that he had met on site at Bertram Park to review the revised plan with Marc Mattice and YMCA representative Brian Kirk. He said that, in addition to the relocation of the daycamp, the primary changes to the plan had been to protect the esker landscape from development, change the alignment of park entrance road to provide more direct access to the beach area, revise the entrance gate plan, and change parking lot configuration increasing the number of spaces to 200. Jeff O'Neill expressed concern about the need to plan for overflow parking should the MYSA facility be built. Additionally, the dump station had been moved, areas in need of signage had been identified and cluster pavement park design techniques would be utilized. Sones also pointed out that the park office facility was planned as a walkout which would lend itself to use as a storm shelter as well as for storage of equipment used at the trailhead. Bertram Regional Park Advisory Council: 04 /06/12 There was some discussion about the importance of maintaining communication between the City, the County, Monticello Township and being cognizant of the Monticello Orderly Annexation Area. Stacy Marquardt pointed out that the YMCA had applied to the county for initial planning approval. They are structuring their building layout and intend to build in 2013. She clarified that the YMCA's revised location in the park limits their daycamp area to some ten or so acres of land -a significant reduction in acreage from the original proposal of 40 acres in the southwest corner of the property. Rose Thelen said that the revised concept plan meets the goal of containing the YMCA in one location. There were some questions about campsite locations and public use of the park. The YMCA will use their designated area of the park June - August Monday through Friday during the day. The rest of the year the entire park is open to the public. Pat Sawatzke stated that although he thought the footprint of the daycamp was fine he does have a few concerns. He questioned the need for a ballfield where it was identified in the concept plan. He asked why two archery ranges were necessary. He felt that the request to increase the number of campers to 300 was excessive since they currently have only 120 attendees. He thought that the number of campers should be amended and reassessed at a later date. Stacy Marquardt said that the number of children at daycamp could be limited through the Conditional Use Permit process. After some discussion it was pointed out that the ballfield would actually be a playfield or a flat grassy area on which to gather for activities. Jim Lindberg clarified that the YMCA used to host some 300 campers but due to the economy and the deteriorating facility that number had been reduced over time. He also pointed out that the YMCA would be improving their facilities and suggested that the goal of the Advisory Council was to promote park use. PAT SAWATZKE MOVED TO APPROVE THE REVISED YMCA CAMP CONCEPT PLAN AMENDING THE INITIAL ALLOWABLE NUMBER OF CAMPERS TO 240 SUBJECT TO LATER REVIEW AND CONTINGENT UPON COMPLIANCE WITH ALL PREVIOUS CONDITIONS AND ALSO SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN REVIEW BY THE ADVISORY COUNCIL. MOTION WAS SECONDED BY ROSE THELEN. MOTION FAILED 4-6. WES OLSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE REVISED YMCA CAMP CONCEPT PLAN INCLUDING THE REQUEST TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE NUMBER OF CAMPERS TO 300 AND CONTINGENT UPON COMPLIANCE WITH ALL PREVIOUS CONDITIONS AND SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN REVIEW BY THE ADVISORY COUNCIL. MOTION WAS SECONDED BY JIM LINDBERG. MOTION CARRIED 10 -0. 4) Formation of a Lake Use Subcommittee (Pete) (5 Minutes) Pete Stupar requested further consideration of formation of a Lake Use Subcommittee which would review lake use issues and make recommendations to the larger Advisory Council. He expressed concern that the larger Council may decide issues based on emotions rather than experience and knowledge and that the interests of taxpayers may not have been fully represented. Marlyn Dibben pointed out that it would not be appropriate to form subcommittees Bertram Regional Park Advisory Council: 04 /06/12 for every special interest group but rather for broader issues. He also noted that the Advisory Council does not intend to ban fishing but to allow it within certain parameters. Rose Thelen suggested that taxpayers did weigh in on usage without motors through the various means of public input. JIM LINDBERG MOVED THAT THE ADVISORY COUNCIL NOT FORM A LAKE USE SUBCOM IITEE. MOTION WAS SECONDED BY TOM JAHNKE. MOTION CARRIED 9 -0. (Pete Stupar abstained.) 5) Continue discussion on Lake Surface Zoning, Ordinance (Group) (20 Minutes) Martyn Dibben indicated that in his role as Advisory Council liaison he had recently provided an update about Bertram issues currently under consideration to the Wright County Parks Commission. He noted that the Parks Commission was disappointed to hear that the Advisory Council was debating allowing any motorized boating with the exception of staff and emergency needs in view of the results of the public survey. The Parks Commission recommended to the Advisory Council that no motors whether electric or gas be allowed on any of the four lakes in the park. The Wright County Board had not yet weighed in on this issue. There was some discussion about how the Three Rivers Park District limits lake use to electric motors and allows gas powered motors to be attached to boats but not used in the lakes. There was also discussion about the ability of existing boat launches in Bertram Park to handle launching larger boats with motors. Marc Mattice had provided sample language related to electric motors for the lake surface ordinance and language related to gas powered motors attached to boats for review. ROSE THELEN MOVED THAT "NO PERSON SHALL OPERATE A PETROLEUM POWERED MOTOR VESSEL ON THE WATERS OF THE BERTRAM CHAIN OF LAKES. BOATS WITH ELECTRIC MOTORS ARE ALLOWED TO OPERATE ON BERTRAM AND LONG LAKES BUT ONLY IF THE ELECTRIC MOTOR DOES NOT EXCEED A CAPACITY OF 2 HORSEPOWER OR 101 POUNDS OF THRUST." MOTION WAS SECONDED BY PETE STUPAR. MOTION CARRIED 9 -1 WITH JIM LINDBERG VOTING IN OPPOSITION. GENE EMANUEL MOVED THAT "PETROLEUM POWERED MOTORS ARE ALLOWED TO BE ATTACHED TO THE TRANSOM OF THE WATERCRAFT, AT NO TIME SHALL THE LOWER UNIT OF ANY SUCH MOTOR BE IN CONTACT WITH THE LAKE SURFACE." MOTION WAS SECONDED BY JIM HAYES. MOTION CARRIED 6 -4. 6) Friends of Bertram Lakes (5 Minutes) The Boy Scouts will do a series of projects as part of a park clean up event either May 0 or 6'h. The Friends will help and monitor scout activities. There will be an effort to eradicate invasive buckthorn using a chemical application. 3 Bertram Regional Park Advisory Council: 04 /06/12 7) Mountain Bike Event Request (Tom P.) (5 Minutes) Tom Pawelk had not yet heard back from the mountain bike club about the possibility of having their state final event at the park. Marc Mattice met with club representatives on site and reviewed the existing trail system. Many of the trails that the cycling club intends to use are sustainable for the long term. He recommended that the Technical Committee review and provide input related to this request. 8) Additions a) Recap of Mountain Bike Club and Boy Scouts -These issues were discussed in items 7 and 6. b) MYSA Update- Jeff O'Neill and staff met with MYSA representatives to discuss moving forward with the design of the facility on the biosolids site. MYSA is looking to construct a facility in the northwest corner of the Bertram property and expects to present a plan to their membership in August. The Advisory Council will have an opportunity to review the draft plan to ensure that it addresses the goals set forth for the park. Some of the issues yet to be considered involve land exchange and related compensation and transitioning from the current use of the site. Pete Stupar also asked to be on record for discussing security at the park and charging fees to use the park at a future Advisory Council meeting. c) Bonding Bill - Angela Schumann indicated that language related to the Bertram Park was not included in the bonding bill. The Greater MN Regional Parks and Trails Commission is making progress at the legislature in the effort to eliminate matching requirements and caps on grants under the Legacy amendment. It may be useful to approve resolutions in support of these issues. d) Summer Programming - Kitty Baltos has been working with Clearwaters Outfitting to plan some canoe events on either Long or Bertram Lake. The events would be scheduled from 6:30 -8 pm a few evenings in the summer. The new southern landing would need to be improved in order to launch canoes. 9) Adjourn PETE STUPAR MOVED TO ADJOURN AT 10:12 AM. MOTION WAS SECONDED BY GENE EMANUEL. MOTION CARRIED 9 -0. (Wes Olson had left the meeting.) Recorder: Kerry T. Burri Approved: May 4, 2��12 Attest: / Advisory Council 12