Planning Commission Minutes 02-06-2007MINUTES
Monticello Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 6th, 2007
6:00 PM
COMMISIONERS: Rod Dragsten, Lloyd Hilgart, Barry Voight, William Spartz and
Charlotte Gabler.
COUNCIL LIASON: Wayne Mayer
STAFF: Gary Anderson, Steve Grittman, Kimberly Holien (NAC)
1. Call to Order. Chairman Dragsten opened the meeting at 6:00 pm. All members
were in attendance.
2. Minutes of December 5th, 2006 Planning Commission meeting. Chair Dragsten
noted a correction to the minutes regarding the letter of credit for Denny Hecker.
VOIGHT MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE
DECEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
• HILGART SECONDED. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
3. A2enda. Commissioner Voight added an inventory of lighting to the agenda as item
8. Commissioner Gabler stated that she would like to discuss the outstanding items
for the Denny Hecker site, as well as landscaping requirements for new construction.
Chair Dragsten added that he would like to discuss the PUD Points System.
Consulting Planner Grittman stated that he would like to give an update on the status
of the Wright County Comprehensive Plan.
4. Citizens' Comments. There were no Citizens' Comments.
5. Public Hearing. Consideration of a Request for a Simple Subdivision in an I-2
(Heavy Industrial) District. Applicant: Steve Birkeland, Custom Canopv.
Grittman introduced the item to the Planning Commission and described the existing
conditions of the site, including locations of existing buildings. Grittman described
the proposal to subdivide the site into two parcels, both of which meet the
performance requirements of the Zoning Ordinance. Grittman explained that front
yard setbacks would apply to both Fallon Avenue and Dundas Road as the proposed
lot is a double frontage lot. Grittman outlined the conditions of approval in Exhibit Z.
Staff is recommending approval of the proposed subdivision, subject to these
conditions.
Commissioner Voight inquired about the required easements for both parcels.
Grittman stated that the requested easements are what the City typically t icall requires for
newly created parcels. He clarified that easements are required on both sides of all
newly created lot lines.
Chair Dragsten inquired about the possibly of subdividing the parcel again in the
future. Grittman verified that Parcel A could be subdivided in the future and still
meet the minimum lot area and lot width requirements. Grittman clarified that any
future subdivision of the site would need to be done through the platting process, and
not as a simple subdivision. Dragsten stated that he does not like the irregular lot
shape.
Dragsten opened the Public Hearing. The applicant, Steve Birkeland 4013 Highway
25 N Buffalo, MN, was present. Dragsten asked the applicant why he chose the
irregular lot design. The applicant stated that he chose the design to allow traffic to
circulate through the site by having access off both Dundas Road and Fallon Avenue.
Dragsten asked the applicant if he was aware of the conditions outlined in Exhibit Z.
Birkeland stated that he met with staff prior to the meeting and was made aware of
the conditions. He stated that he is willing to comply with all conditions in Exhibit Z.
Council Liaison Mayer stated that he is concerned with the proximity of a potential
access in the northwest corner of the site to the intersection of Chelsea Road and
Fallon Avenue. Mayer asked Grittman how far the driveway would need to be
setback from the intersection. Grittman stated that he believes the required setback is
60 feet. Mayer stated that he is concerned with this potential driveway location with
the future extension of Fallon Avenue, as this driveway would be the first thing
people would see as they come across the freeway. Grittman stated that the issue of
the driveway location has not been studied, but the City could request that WSB, the
consulting engineer, look into the situation.
COMMISSIONER HILGART MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST
FOR A SIMPLE SUBDIVISION IN AN I-2, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTIRCT,
SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN EXHIBIT Z.
SECOND BY VOIGHT. MOTION CARRIED, 5-0
6. Public Hearing. Consideration of a Reauest for Conditional Use Permit for a
Comprehensive Sign Plan for a retail strip center in a B-3 (Hip-hwav Business)
District. Applicant: Miller Architects and Builders.
Grittman introduced the proposed Comprehensive Sign Plan. Grittman presented the
proposed wall signage for Building `B" of the Warnert Retail site. The amount of
wall signage proposed is consistent with the Zoning Ordinance. Grittman
summarized the amount of signage allowed by ordinance. Grittman presented the
proposed pylon sign, which is consistent with the City's Zoning Ordinance. Staff is
recommending approval of the Conditional Use Permit for the Comprehensive Sign
Plan.
Commissioner Voight inquired as to the style of the wall signage. Grittman stated
that they appear to be typical backlit, box panel signs. Commissioner Gabler inquired
as to the design of the pylon sign and stated that she is concerned about whether or
not it will blend in with existing signs along Highway 25. Grittman presented the
pylon sign schematic and stated that he is not aware of the proposed materials of the
pylon sign.
Chair Dragsten inquired as to the status of the lighting plan for the site. He would
like to verify that the site has an approved lighting plan as he believes that may have
been another outstanding issue for the project. Dragsten questioned the square
footage of the signage. He stated that he reviewed the plan and got 495 square feet of
signage, as opposed to 467 square feet as noted in the report. Voight stated that he
calculated the signage several times and came up with 467 square feet. Grittman
stated that staff would verify the total area of proposed wail signage.
Dragsten opened the Public Hearing. Stuart Bailey of Miller Architects and Builders,
3335 West Germain Street St. Cloud, MN, spoke as the applicant. Mr. Bailey
described the design and materials of the proposed pylon sign. He stated that the sign
will be supported by tubular steel posts. The face of the sign will contain Lucite
panels surrounded by an aluminum frame. Dragsten inquired as to whether or not an
electronic reader board would be used. Bailey verified that there would not be a
reader board. Bailey described the materials of the proposed wall signs.
Building Official Anderson asked the applicant to consider including a message
center under the pylon sign to avoid problems with the 40 days allotted for temporary
signage. The applicant stated that he would take that into consideration, but the
proposed sign maximizes the allowed signage for the site.
MOTION BY HILGART TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT FOR A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN.
SECOND BY SPARTZ.
Dragsten asked that the square footage be verified and the lighting plan be checked.
HILGART AMENDED HIS MOTION TO INCLUDE A PROVISION ASKING
STAFF TO VERIFY THE SIGNAGE AREA. MOTION SECONDED BY SPARTZ
AS AMENDED. MOTION CARRIED, 5-0.
7. Public Hearing- Consideration of a request for Final Plat approval, Development
Stage Planned Unit Development Approval for a multi -tenant shopping center, and
Conditional Use Permit approval for a drive through lane in a B-4 (ReLionai
SBusiness) District. Applicant: Rvan Companies, Inc.
Grittman introduced the retail center to the Commission and described the
proposed
conditions of the site. Grittman outlined the approvals being requested and the
history of the project. Grittman pointed out access to the site as illustrated on the site
plan. Grittman described the drive through location and how traffic would circulate
through the site accordingly. Grittman stated that the proposed amount of stacking
space is appropriate to accommodate the drive through coffee shop/restaurant use.
Grittman explained that the parking requirement for the site has not been met, but
may be accommodated by excess parking in the remainder of the site via Planned
Unit Development. Grittman outlined the conditions of approval in Exhibit Z. Staff
is recommending approval of the proposed plat, Conditional Use Permit, and Planned
Unit Development subject to these conditions.
Commissioner Gabler questioned the leasing status of the site. Commissioner Spartz
asked about the parking situation for Lots 2 and 3. Grittman stated that parking on
those lots will be evaluated upon development. Grittman also noted that the applicant
will be submitting another application for the undeveloped portion of the site in the
near future.
Spartz inquired about the "no stopping" area and a potential one-way turn in this area.
Grittman verified that the one-way circulation is conditioned in the City Engineer's
report. Spartz inquired as to whether or not there would be access to the building on
dothe back side, facing Target. Mr. Grittman verified that the back portion of the
building would be reserved for service access.
Spartz inquired about the separation between the Target parking lot and the drive
through lane as he is concerned about snow storage. Grittman stated that the
proposed setback appears to be adequate.
Voight inquired about the requested removal of the two parking stalls located within
the easement. Grittman stated that although the site is short on parking, removing
these stalls would still be preferred. Commissioner Voight inquired about the lighting
plan and the proposed footcandle measurements, as well as the height of the light
fixtures. He is concerned about the accuracy of the footcandle readings in the
northeast corner of the site. Dragsten stated that a condition could be added to
request that the applicant speak to their lighting engineer and provide additional
information on how the footcandle readings were measured.
Commissioner Voight inquired as to whether or not the applicant would need further
approval for a pylon sign. Mr. Grittman verified that they would.
Chair Dragsten verified that any future tenants for the center must be permitted uses
in the B-4 District. Dragsten inquired about the use of the parking in the Target
parking lot and the rear building elevation. He stated that he is concerned with the
monotony of the facade as it will be visible from the Target site and the parking lot.
Dragsten inquired about the location for deliver vehicles and delivery times. Mr.
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Grittman verified that the service doors for each tenant are in the back of the building
and it can be expected that service vehicles will access the site from the rear drive
lane. Mr. Grittman explained that the drive through is wide enough for a passing lane
in the event of delivery vehicles standing in the drive through lane. Voight inquired
about the location of trash enclosures. Planner Holien verified that the trash
receptacles are enclosed and are expected to be accessed from the back of the
building.
Chair Dragsten stated that he is concerned with the number of conditions outlined in
Exhibit Z. Grittman verified that the applicant would be required to satisfy all
conditions in Exhibit Z prior to moving on to Final Stage Planned Unit Development
approval.
Chair Dragsten opened the public hearing. Steve Broyer of Ryan Companies, Inc.
was present to speak as the applicant. Mr. Broyer clarified Voight's questions on the
lighting plan. Broyer explained the plan for tenant signage upon leasing each space.
Broyer stated that the applicant has been asked to prepare an alternate design for the
back side of building by Target. He stated that possible modifications to this portion
of the building may include black awnings and/or metal glaze to break up the
monotony.
Broyer stated that deliveries to the site will be self -managed based on tenant usage
and trash will not be picked up during peak periods.
Broyer stated that monument signage was approved for the site during Phase I of the
PUD. He stated that the tenant usage for this monument sign will be determined upon
development of the remaining two lots.
Mayer clarified that the drive through approved for the Broadway Market site, which
is similar in design to that proposed, was only approved by the City Council after
much debate. Mayer expressed concern about directional signage for the entrance to
the drive through. He stated that he is concerned with the "no stopping" area, as the
message may easily be covered by snow. Broyer stated that additional directional
signage may be added to the site to ease traffic flow into and around the drive
through. He also stated that no issues have been reported with similar drive through
designs in other locations. Dragsten inquired about the location of the order board
and pick-up window and asked if the applicant has considered blocking the pass
through lane in the drive through location. Grittman stated such a design often
creates traffic flow concerns as it would result in a dead-end.
Grittman expressed concern about low footcandle readings near the drive through
order board. Broyer stated that wall pack lighting may be added in this location and
an updated lighting plan can be submitted to reflect this change.
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Commissioner Hilgart asked whether or not it would be feasible to keep traffic on the
right side of the drive aisle in the northeast corner of the site to alleviate traffic flow,
and then direct traffic toward the drive through order board after the pass through
lane. Hilgart stated that the intended traffic pattern may be communicated by striping
the drive aisle. Grittman and Dragsten agreed that this design may be a feasible
solution to traffic congestion problems in the pass through location. Dragsten
clarified that this would eliminate the need for one-way traffic circulation in this
location. Commissioner Spartz asked Hilgart to clarify his proposal. The applicant
stated that this modification may be accommodated.
Dragsten stated that he is concerned with the design of both the front and rear
building elevations, and would like the applicant to come back with revised plans. He
stated that he would prefer to err on the side of caution as this is a double fronting lot.
Hilgart asked if it would be possible to duplicate the design of the front of the
building on the back side. Chair Dragsten stated that he would like to see the roofline
broken up and an alternate design submitted for the back side of the building. He also
stated that he would like to see a color elevation of the back side of the building.
Hearing no further comment, Dragsten closed the public hearing.
Hilgart stated that he would like to see the alternate building design with the more
detail to break up the back side of the building. Broyer stated that the applicant
would prepare revised plans reflecting the Planning Commission's concerns.
is MOTION BY DRAGSTEN TO TABLE ALL REQUESTED APPROVALS FOR 30
DAYS TO PROVIDE THE APPLICANT TIME TO SUBMIT NEW SCHEMATICS
FOR THE BUILDING DESIGN AND THE DRIVE THROUGH DESIGN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER VOIGHT, WHO AMENDED THE MOTION
TO REQUEST AN UPDATED LIGHTING PLAN.
DRAGSTEN AMENDED HIS MOTION TO REFLECT THIS REQUEST.
SECOND BY VOIGHT. MOTION CARRIED, 5-0.
S. Added Item: Commissioner Voight expressed concern with lighting situations
throughout the City. He stated that he has had conversations with Administrator
O'Neill about lighting on City properties. Mr. Voight stated that he would like to see
the lighting ordinance updated as part of a larger ordinance review in the future. Mr.
Voight recommended that the City hire a consultant to measure lighting throughout
the City. Dragsten clarified the request to hire a consultant and inquired about the
process with Gary Anderson. Mr. Anderson stated that it may be a good idea to look
at problem properties prior to hiring a consultant.
9. Added Item: Commissioner Gabler requested a staff update on the outstanding
requirements for the Jacob Holdings Interim Use Permit.
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10. Added Item: Commissioner Gabler requested an inventory of projects with
outstanding landscaping requirements. Grittman verified that staff may prepare a list
of recently approved projects for the Planning Commission to review. Gabler stated
that she would like to review this information prior to the spring planting season.
Dragsten clarified the security mechanism used by the City to ensure landscaping
compliance. Gary Anderson verified that the City uses a letter of credit process and
properties must be compliant with the landscaping requirements within one growing
season.
11. Added Item: Dragsten asked that the City continue their work on the PUD Points
System to have this project on track prior to the construction season. Grittman stated
that staff is also concerned about continuing this process. Mayer stated that he would
like both the City Council and Planning Commission to participate in a joint session
regarding this issue and asked that the Planning Commission and City Council both
be notified of any future meetings on this topic.
12. Added Item: Grittman gave an update on the Wright County Comprehensive
Planning process for the Northeast Quadrant. He stated that the far northwest portion
of the quadrant is guided for some smaller lot Rural Residential land uses. Grittman
stated that participants at the previous meeting expressed that they would prefer to see
this land guided as agricultural. He stated that the County is expecting to get a draft
of this document out by the end of next month. Dragsten asked about the proposed
land uses within the Orderly Annexation Area and the timeline of the process.
Grittman stated that the City should have a draft of the Comprehensive Plan to review
by the next Planning Commission meeting.
13. Adjournment. COMMISSIONER DRAGSTEN MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN
THE MEETING.
SECOND BY HILGART. MOTION CARRIED, 5-0.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberly Holien, Recording Secretary
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