HRA Minutes 11-06-2002MINUTES
MONTICELLO HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
Wednesday, November 6, 2002 - 6:00 p.m.
505 Walnut Street - Bridge Room
Commissioners: Vice Chair Steve Andrews, Darrin Lahr, Dan Frie, Bill Fair and Council
Liaison Brian Stumpf
Absent: Chair Brad Barger
Staff: Rick Wolfsteller, 011ie Koropchak, Jeff O'Neill and Lori Kraemer
1. Call to Order.
Vice Chair Andrews called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m. and declared a quorum.
2. Consideration to approve the October 2 2002 HRA minutes.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY DARRIN LAHR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF
THE OCTOBER 2, 2002 HRA MEETING. BILL FAIR SECONDED THE MOTION.
MOTION CARRIED WITH DAN FRIE ABSTAINING.
3. Consideration of adding or removing items from thea enda.
Koropchak removed item 413 and 5, stating there would be discussion on item 5.
4. Consent Agenda.
A. Consideration to approve changes to _the Contract for Private Development by and
among the City, the HRA and the Central Minnesota Single Family Housing,
LLC. Recommendation: To approve changes to the Contract for Private
Development.
Koropchak advised that this will be the same amount of assistance, just given in 3
separate payments which secures the HRA's risk. Koropchak also noted that she
had not been aware that the homes would be constructed in terms of modular
homes, but the assessor stated it would not change the value. Jeff O'Neill advised
that he would put together a packet of information on this project as well.
C. Consideration to approve changing the date of the regular meeting of the HRA
from January 1, 2003, to January 8, 2003.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY DAN FRIE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA,
WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM 4B. BILL FAIR SECONDED THE MOTION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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5. Consideration to approve assignment of the Contract for Private Development between
the HRA and T. J. Martin, Inc. from T. J. Martin Inc to WHL Enterprises Inc and to
amend certain conditions within the Contract.
Koropchak advised that this item was removed from the agenda so no action was
required. Koropchak provided a copy of a letter sent to Wayne Hoglund after discovering
that the business would have to be a manufacturing business in order to comply with the
contract. She will be checking further with HRA Attorney Greensweig.
6. Continued - Consideration to hear an update on the progress for redevelopment of a
portion of Block 52.
Koropchak advised that Steve Johnson, Jim McComb, Jeff O'Neill and herself had met
previously and that Johnson would present an update to the HRA on his progress. She
did advise there was no preliminary agreement or deposit at this time. She also advised
that she had invited Pat Sawatzke and advised that they may be interested in his project as
well.
Steve Johnson noted that Kevin Heaton would not be participating in Phase I, but may in
Phase II. Phase I would include Johnson's properties and the HRA lot. He discussed the
City's ordinance regarding parking which could be reduced to 60%. He presented a
parking study which they felt would be appropriate in comparison to other communities.
He noted that most parking spaces are at 20% to 30% full, other than at peak hours. They
are finding a demand for approximately 2 I'2 spots per 1,000 sq. ft. In further research
they noted weekday parking versus weekends. They compared restaurants, retail, and
office. He then stated that the project would take,3 to 3 �/2 parking spots per 1,000 sq. ft.
when combining retail and retail/office.
Johnson advised of 2 alternatives. Alternative B included demolition and acquisition of
land, and Alternative A would be no additional land and re -striping the existing parking
spaces. Johnson stated they would have 130 parking spaces for that block and with the
existing spaces there would be a total of 199, stating this was calculated at 4 spaces per
1,000 sq. ft.
He stated that there had been no changes in regard to uses and sources. Phase II would
require acquisition of land. He also noted that they estimated working capitol and
parking lot costs. Johnson advised they had received an estimated value of buildings
when complete and advised that Koropchak was calculating numbers.
Johnson told the HRA he was looking for a consensus of the members that he should
proceed with his project, stating that he was looking for their agreement on the number of
parking spaces they feel are required for this project. Koropchak had concerns with
parking counts from Johnson being different from what the City staff had determined in a
previous parking study.
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Jeff O'Neill added that in the CCD they can accept an application with 60% of the
required parking, but it would be up to the Planning Commission to approve. He noted
an exception in that they typically do not count the parking on the streets, as this is
generally for overflow parking. If street parking was included in the 60%, the overflow
parking would have to go elsewhere, although he stated they were close with the number
of spaces.
Pat Sawatzke stated he also questioned whether they could count street parking , adding
that he was in favor of Steve's project as long as it did not create a parking problem. He
stated that the parking at his business and one other was not included in Johnson's count.
Steve Andrews advised that parking is a planning and zoning issue and not for the HRA
to determine. Johnson stated that he felt this does come into play, noting that if they find
they are short on parking they would need to acquire more land and that would increase
their costs and affect the amount of assistance from the HRA. O'Neill added that Steve
Grittman had looked at this proposal briefly and they will again review it at their site
review the next day, as well as reviewing Sawatzke's proposal, which would give them a
better idea of parking counts.
The HRA asked that staff review both proposals and report back to the HRA. It was also
stated that at this time there may be too inuch parking and not enough business so this
may work to balance it out.
Sawatzke advised the HRA that he had several concepts to present and also that he did
not have a great deal of time to prepare for this meeting. They would like to build a 3
story downtown commercial building, with the main level housing their own business,
Jade Patrick Salon, as well as several other business on the first floor. He advised that
the 2"' and 3'"' floors would be upper scale rental residential, possibly with balconies
overlooking the River. They discussed the square footage of the building as well as
parking spaces needed.
Sawatzke then advised of their second concept which included underground parking
which he felt would be beneficial for the residential units. He noted their advantage for
underground parking due to the elevation of their site. He added that they could not
provide all of their parking spaces on site and would need to utilize parking spaces in the
existing lot.
There was discussion regarding the timing for these projects as they relate to the TIF
district and Sawatzke was advised to meet with Koropchak for that information. O'Neill
asked if there was a potential for relocation of the current property owner that Sawatzke
would need to acquire property from and it was stated that may be a possibility.
Steve Johnson stated he felt that the parking could be worked out and that he and
Sawatzke would get together and discuss. Fair added that they should not get hung up on
parking and the need to move the projects ahead. Fair also asked staff to provide a
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timetable that the HRA would have in order to keep moving forward. Koropchak advised
that there would be dates listed in the applicant's contracts as well.
Sawatzke then clarified the reason he was against a previous proposal on this block. He
stated that he is not looking at acquiring public property, would not be using up all of the
parking, and not be creating a wall obstructing a view to the River, as the previous
proposal had.
Andrews asked if Johnson had done drillings/soils on Block 52 and Johnson stated that
technically the tanks that are on this site do not exist and that back in the 1970's they were
told by the City to empty them out and fill them with sand and weld them shut. The cost
to take them out would be $25,000 to $30,000, but added that if there was no
contamination, the cost could be as low as $10,000. No testing had been done.
The HRA then asked Johnson about the $862,000 gap stated in his proposal, adding that
there is only $306,000 of eligible costs, leaving over a $500,000 difference. Johnson
stated that this issue needs to be discussed with McComb, but that this gap may not be
entirely of TIF as there are other funds available to them through DTED. There was no
further discussion.
7. Consideration to endorse the formation of a subcommittee to complete the Business Park
Development 101 Exercise and to appoint a representative.
Koropchak advised that this item came as a result of a conference she had attended,
stating it ties in with the IDC's request for funds for future industrial development or
purchasing of land. Koropchak described the process of this exercise and that she
thought there should be a member from the HRA, IDC, Planning Commission and/or
City Council, as well as possibly someone from Minnegaso or Exel, and City consultants
if needed. Koropchak advised that the IDC had made a motion to prepare a presentation
for the Planning Commission, endorsed the 101 exercise, and appointed Don Roberts of
Sunny Fresh as the IDC representative.
O'Neill stated he viewed this as a repeat of the Comp Plan process and that they are
already working on getting a task force together to get utilities up to the North Corridor.
He also questioned why they would look to the South when the Freeway is a more viable
area for Industrial. He stated he also sees this as a possible benefit and that this could
compliment the intent of the task force for the North Corridor. O'Neill did advise,
however, that this would require resources, time and energy, noting that there are many
projects happening right now and that there needs to be a balance with the work load to
provide good service to the public.
It was clarified that this exercise would be different from the North Corridor Task Force
and Lahr stated this seemed to be a "how to build an industrial park" exercise, which
Koropchak stated it was. There was discussion on the what the City's role should be in
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this. They also discussed looking long term by purchasing property to the north where
the interchange would eventually be put in and deal with industrial land on a short term
basis for now. O'Neill did point out that once annexation happens they would also have a
portion of the Gold Nugget property for industrial.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY DAN FRIE TO HAVE THE NORTHWEST CORRIDOR
TASK FORCE COMPLETE THE BUSINESS PARK DEVELOPMENT 101
EXERCISE. BILL FAIR SECONDED THE MOTION.
There was further discussion by Lahr that this seems to be industrial park hunting but he
doesn't feel the City is ready for that. Frie asked O'Neill about a time frame for getting
the task force developed and he stated it would be at least 4 months to get it all pulled
together. Koropchak then stated for the record that this would not be her
recommendation as they have been trying to do something for months now and nothing is
happening. She stated her frustration at not seeing any progress since she started with the
City 17 years ago and that she felt this was not a priority to staff. There was no further
discussion.
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. Consideration of request from IDC to re -instate the use of the HRA committed funds for
purchase of land for future industrial development.
Koropchak advised her recommendation after talking with Brad Barger, they felt this
should be tabled until after the 101 exercise as that would tell them more. Koropchak
added that the request from the IDC resulted from discussions at the Planning
Commission meeting where they recommended to put dollars up for infrastructure, not
purchasing of land.
There was further discussion on not reinstating their previous motion as they felt it was
not up to the IDC to request the HRA to do this.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY DARRIN LAHR TO NOT REINSTATE COMMITTED
RESERVE FUNDS OF THE HRA AND CITY FOR PURCHASE OF LAND FOR
FUTURE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
There was further discussion that Resolution 99-4 already stated that the HRA committed
dollars toward the acquisition or development of industrial land and therefore there was
no need to reinstate this. There was no further discussion.
LAHR AMENDED HIS PREVIOUS MOTION TO THE HRA REINSTATING
RESOLUTION 99-4 WITH CHANGES TO THE COMMITTED DOLLARS FOR
ACQUISITION OR DEVELOPMENT OF INDUSTRIAL LAND. STEVE ANDREWS
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Consideration to authorize payment of HRA bills.
MOTION WAS MADE BY DARRIN LAHR TO AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF THE
HRA BILLS. DAN FRIE SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Consideration of Executive Director's Report.
Koropchak provided the report. Bill Fair asked if there was something the City could do
to acknowledge Sunny Fresh's donation toward the Central Minnesota Housing
Partnership project and Koropchak said that could be looked into.
Rick Wolfsteller added more information regarding the tax abatement workshop he and
Koropchak had attended. He informed them of what the City of Albertville was trying to
do with road improvements and tax abatement through the County.
11. Committee Reports. None
12. Other Business. None
13 . Adjournment.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY DAN FRIE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 8:30
P.M. DARRIN LAHR SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
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