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Planning Commission Agenda Packet 11-22-1977PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING Tuesday - November 22, 1977 - 7:30 P. M. Members: Gillham, Topel, Doerr, Ridgeway, Bauer, Miller. 1. Approval of November 15, 1977 minutes. 2. Consideration of Building Permit - Decorative Services. 3. Ordinance Amendment Review. NOTE PLEASE BRING IN YOUR ORDINANCE BOOKS AND THEY WII_1. BE UPDATED WITH ALL ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. AGENDA SUPPLEMENT Agenda Item 2. Consideration of Building Permit - Decorative Services. Decorative Services is requesting a building permit on the eastern half of Lot 1, Block 2, Oakwood Industrial Park. This is the same lot as Zahler Lumber Co. occupies. (See enclosed map). This item was reviewed briefly at the Planning Com- mission's last meeting and it was tabled until this special meeting to allow the building inspector a chance to review the plans. Decorative Services is proposing a 40' x 120' (4800 square feet) concrete block building con- sisting of twenty (20) individual garages for rental storage. This usage is allowed according to the ordinance in the Oakwood Industrial Park as a permitted use-. If there is to be any outside storage (present plans do not indicate any) it would be necessary to apply for a conditional use permit. for such s tora go. Since this lot is being subdivided, the following requirements are necessary: 1. Certificate of survey. 2. Review by Planning Commission. 3. Review and approval by City Council." 4. Park dedication requirements; there would be merit, for waiving this provision since the V_, to Oakwood Industrial Park has already gone through wr4 sul>fivision requirements when it, was platted. Additionally, according to our ordinance, twenty (20) off street, parking spaces would be required. POSSIBLE ACTION: Consideration of building permit request.. Agenda Item 3. Ordinance Amendment. Review. MEMORANDUM T0: Planning Commission FROM: Gary Wieber In order to expedite future Planning Commission meetings I would like to make a few suggestions. I. Please read the information sent out with the agenda it helps to eliminate confusion or questions at the meeting. 2. Should you feel you need additional information that was not included with the agenda, please call Rick or myself and we will certainly try to provide it for you. 3. While no two agenda items are alike, normally it. should not take longer than one-half (1) hour per item and in most cased 10-15 minutes is adequate. Any additional suggestions you may have to expedite meetings will be appreciated. Another item T would like to mention is meeting attendance. Sometimes we barely have a quorum and it may be well to review when the next, meeting is at, the end of each meeting to determine who may be absent.. Additionally, it' something does come up that you cannot. make a meeting, please notify city hall. HOWARD DAHLGREN ASSOCIATES CONSULTING PLANN E n 5 October 31, 1977 Mr. Gary Wieber, City Administrator Cit_v of Monticello 215 South Cedar Street Monticello, Minnesota 55362 RE: Fast Food Restaurant Parking Requirements Dear Gary: At your request. I have researched the parking requirements for the fast food restaurants. As you are aware, the City of Monticello requires one (1) off-street parking space for each 15 square feet of gross floor area for a "drive-in establishment and convenience food" restaurant. The requirement for a traditional restaurant is one space for each 40 square feet of "gross floor area of dining and bar area and one space for each 80 square feet of kitchen area". in today's restaurant industry, there are several different types of restaurant operations, each with their unique parking needs. The regular "drive-in restaurant" was originally conceived as a car -hop service where the customer would sit in his car and be served by car -hops. This type of operation required extended time periods for Darking the car and eating the food. Therefore, a larger number of parking spaces is required. A different type of operation is the McDonald's Restaurant which is regarded as a "fast food restaurant". Most of the food is served across the counter and the choice is made available to the customer to eat the food within the restaurant or carry it out. The McDonald's Restdurdnt people tell me that they expect a turn over in each parking stall every 20 to 30 minutes. They explained that they prefer a parking standard of one parking stall for every 2.5 seats provided or one parking stall for every 100 square feet of Bros,, floor ar•ed. Other fast food restaurant chains have expressed nrrferenee for surilar standdrds. The national operation for the Kentuc&.v Fried Chicken explained that they prefer 20 parking stalls for tnerr tr'adiLiondl ,arry-out chicken service or one parlinq stall for earn 2.5 seats (it seating is provid M in their restaurant,,). I dl"! tntcrvieueL: several cormunities within the Twin Cities. 'a1 a,nr:les suLh as Burnsville and Roseville each utilise the "one s1+1- 10" ed.h It squire feel of nross floor area" standards. Other Mr. Gary Wieber, City Administrator October 31, 1977 Page Two communities such as Bloomington and Edina stipulate that there shall be one space per two or three seats, and the balance will depend on the nature of the restaurant operation. These communities control their fast food restaurants by conditional use permits, and the conditions of the permit stipulate that adequate on-site parking shall be provided. In other words, these communities establish a minimum number and remain flexible on the amount provided. From the City's point of view, it is very important to have enough off-street parkinq spaces. However, it is also a concern of creatinr too much asohalt area which is not utilized, becoming an "eyesore". The problem becomes one of establishing a standard which recognizes the various parking needs of the different restaurant operations. For example, a Kentucky Fried Chicken Carry -Out operation which involves no seating arrangements can get by with a minimum of 20 parking spaces. A similar sized tuilding for another restaurant operation will require 25, 30, or maybe 50 parking spaces. The point being that floor area (as a zoning standard) may relate to one fast food restaurant opera- tion and not to another. It is important to remember that a restaurant, especially a nationally franchised restaurant is not going to sell itself short on parking space. There is probably no quicker way to ruin a restaurant's business than to establish a reputation (or image) of having too few parking spaces or being a difficult place to find a parking space. �- In conclusion, it is reco,mended that the ordinance standard for drive-in restaurants tie irended to require "one parking space for - every employee, flus one parkiny space for every 100 square feet of gross floor area, or one parking space for every two seats provided in the restaurant, whichever number is greater". By establishing ,i minimum standard for employees and by providing two alternatives, i is felt that this standard will cover most restaurant operations. If ;ou have any q,,eations on this matter, please do not. hesitate fl, telephone. Sincerely, HOI:ARD DA(ILGREN AWC If TLS, INC. R hard J. Nicell HOWARD DAMLOREw ASSOCIATES CONSULTING PLANNERS • ONE OPOVELANO TEPPACE MINNKAPOLIB. MIN"toot. 68.03 • su. »,..aa� October 31, 1977 Mr. Gary Mieber. City Administrator City of Monticello 215 South Cedar Street Monticello. Minnesota 55362 RE: Parking Standards for New Car Sales Dear Gary: At your request. I have researched the question of off-street parking requirements for new car sales. As is the case with most zoning ordinances. communities vary greatly in their standards for parking requirements. for example. the City of Bloomington has very specific standards such as 0360 spaces for display and storage of vehicles. 20 spaces for service areas. 40 spaces for employees. and 30 spaces for customers". The City of Edina. on.the other hand, treats the sales area as a retail sales area. controlled by their retail sales standards. The repair part of the new car sales is controlled by the standard of "three -parking spaces for each service bay, plus one parking space for each employee". The number of spaces for new and used car, storage and display is not mentioned in the Edina Ordinance. These spaces would be over and above the basic required spaces for sales and repair areas. By applying standards which cover the sales area and repair area. the City is covered for off-street parking requirements. The important thing during site plan review would be to determine that there is adequate area for new and used car storage and display. After the permits were let and the operation initiated. it would be easy for the land owner to utilize the required off-street parking spaces for new car display and sales. and it would be difficult for the City to police this problem. lie can discuss this question at the special Planning Commission meeting of Tuesday. November 9. 1977. If you have any questions in the mean- time. please do not hesitate to telephone. Sincerely. Hoaf�RB OAHy�tEN/ASSG IAT ✓ • # !A, Richard J. Dwlnel I